Hi friends of think atheist,
You definitely have heard of this news last Monday..
France Enforces Ban on Full-Face Veils in Public.
Sorry if this has been discussed before...but It's important to hear the atheists opinion on this matter.
VÉNISSIEUX, France — France on Monday formally banned the wearing of full veils in public places, becoming the first country in Europe to impose restrictions on a form of attire that some Muslims consider a religious obligation.
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I'm very interested in hearing people's opinion's on the ban..
So, what do you think?
Public nudity is an example of the higher standard I was referring to. It's different than banning a specific garment.
But on the other hand, should governments be banning nudity? Nudity isn't inherently inciteful or dangerous like hate speech or yelling "fire" in a theater, so on some level, doesn't banning it also violate basic freedoms of expression, as distasteful as it is? Governments may reserve the legal right to ban it, but insofar as they do, isn't it self-contradictory, since governments exist to uphold and protect the rights enshrined in their foundational documents (Constitutions, etc)?
here is a forum discussion
There are places in america where the ku klux klan is not allowed to publicly wear it's full hoods and masks, and that has passed constitutional muster despite the KKK being a chrisatian religious organization. I see no reason why the same rulings can't be used on islam.
I also support this decision becaus eit makes it clear to muslims that they will NOT be allowed to FORCE women to wear veils in public, like they do in countries where islam dominates.
And remember, if they don't like it they can move to a different country. Unlike many women living under sharia oppression in muslim countries.
This story has touched my feelings!!
thanks so much for sharing!
This is way too eloquent a post to be left as a comment and I highly suggest you put it into a blog entry. I absolutely love hearing about incidents like this since I have a lot of blind and sight-impaired friends and some of the obstacles created for them just defy the imagination.
I'm always amazed when stand-offs occur like this. In your case, you can't just choose to hear better but the woman in front of you can choose to make herself better understood by offering a view of her face. How anyone can fail to see the correct solution here is beyond me. I've encountered another interesting case where wheelchair athletes argued for better funding for their equipment because it was a requirement of their participation while at the same time arguing against better funding for guides for blind athletes because they claimed that was a totally different issue.
Anyway, I am so glad you stood up for your rights in this case and it definitely highlights one reason why the 'right' to conceal one's face is absurd. I am concerned about this law, however, since there are very rare cases where face covering might have more important considerations than modesty.
Awesome story. I'm so glad you stood up for yourself. This is why they are able to perpetuate this kind of behavior because other people will not step in and say something.
What I don't understand is why the woman wouldn't remove her covering for you another woman. It is my understanding that a woman can't be seen by other men but other women are ok. I'm so confused!