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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on March 10, 2010 at 1:52am

The woman who runs this blog's name is "Shelley." So I took the opportunity to tell her EXACTLY what God thinks of women. Unfortunately... it appears comments are moderated, and since I put some considerable effort into my response I will post it here... since she'll likely delete it.
Excuse me Ms. Shelley,
As an atheist I am appalled that you are delighted in the persecution of the one thing that can liberate women AND humanity…. the truth. Atheism is not a “religion.” We do not attend worship services or hold prayers. We have different viewpoints. The only thing we hold in common is that NONE of us believe in God. As a woman atheist I realize that freedom from the gynophobic religions of monotheism, particularly christianity and islam is the ONLY way for a woman to be free and value herself as a human being. The bible puts a monetary value on us as women, which is half that of men. [don’t believe me check Leviticus 27: 1-7
The Bible also demands that a woman who is raped and doesn’t scream loud enough to be heard will be put to death by stoning… Deuteronomy 22: 23 – 24
If you get RAPED as a virgin… then you must marry your rapist! GOD COMMANDS IT!!
Deuteronomy 22: 28-29

As a woman… God HATES YOU and God THINKS YOU ARE WORTHLESS!!

Freedom can only come from escape. One of the things that led me to conclude that there is no god is that the bible is SO sexist that it was obviously written by men in a time when women were considered worth as little as or less than livestock.

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Permalink Reply by godlizard on March 10, 2010 at 3:10am

It's a shame such an eloquent, well-reasoned response will never see the light of day over at that site, nor will the vast majority of women who get as far as that hysterical, hateful viewpoint ever be 'saved' from their own abysmal self-worth.

I've had some recent conversations with an apologist who was trying to justify the atrocities in the bible, and the blinding, unconditional acceptance was gut-wrenching. I asked him point blank if he would join a group of fellow xtians who were stoning a woman to death because her husband had accused her of adultery -- note I said *accused*, not that she had committed adultery (not sure he picked up on that) but his response was something along the line of "so, you will not accept his justice?"

That's how bad it is, really.

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Permalink Reply by Jon Heim on August 6, 2010 at 1:33pm

very nicely put.

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Permalink Reply by Nathan Wolf on September 23, 2010 at 5:50am

While this definetly is sick and I am not disagreeing because I am agreeing, one thing that my last youth minister always emphasized on was new testament vs old testament. "Out with the Old in with The New". So I guess in a way the old testament isn't valid? But all the same if this ever was God's law, then this isn't a god i want tp honor.

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Permalink Reply by Tera on October 10, 2010 at 11:26pm

Actually, it's a common misconception that the New Testament invalidates the Old Testament according to Christian faith. In fact, Christ himself makes many references to the Old Testament as the word of God and even says in Matthew 5:18, "Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished" in reference to the Old Testament. If a Christian is following their own faith, then Christ's attitude towards Old Testament doctrine is 'correct' and there is no other way to take it except as "law."

The fact that many of the teachings in the New Testament seem to directly contradict bits of the Old Testament is another conversation entirely.

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Permalink Reply by Malcolm on October 11, 2010 at 3:29am

Yes, except that Jesus is made in the Gospels to violate OT dietary restrictions and prohibitions against doing certain activities on the Sabbath, and Paul quite strenuously argues against gentile Xians having to follow OT Jewish law (he hedges on whether Jewish Xians should). The authors of the NT disagreed with each other vehemently on this point (Paul even said that Xian advocates of circumcision should castrate themselves), with James, Matthew, and possibly the author of Revelations in opposition to Paul, which is why a Xian can always find something in there to support a point of view on this topic, regardless of what is is.

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Permalink Reply by Pinko Commie on March 10, 2010 at 3:34am

Wow. I mean...wow. That's so...yeah, I'm really pissed off about this so I'll be back to make a real comment later.

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Permalink Reply by Pinko Commie on March 10, 2010 at 6:52am

That makes more sense - you would think this would be big news were it real.

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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on March 10, 2010 at 8:49am

Oh that does make sense. Wow she fooled me! That particular blog post seemed very convincing. Hmmm... should I take this discussion down?

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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on March 10, 2010 at 9:56am

My only reply to this woman is OMG!! o.O

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Permalink Reply by Michel-san on March 15, 2010 at 10:12pm

What does it say about reality when one struggles to make a satire of it?

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Permalink Reply by Pinko Commie on March 16, 2010 at 12:54am

No joke, sir. :/

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