Several years ago while at the gym, I noticed the gym trainer reading a book, I think it was "The View From the Center of the Universe". We started talking, mostly me asking questions. He told me three very interesting (ie: absurd) things:

  1. Earth is, indeed, the Center of the Universe. Not sure where he got his calculations for an expanding universe from.

  2. Taking all sizes of particles floating about the universe, from large stars to dust particles, the average size of everything in the universe is "man-size". (Ok, Shaq or Mini-me?)

  3. The Sun orbits Earth. This is proved by all of the references in the Bible of "the rising sun", which aligns with "the rising son".

Being a "young" atheist, I was at a loss as to how best respond. I didn't want to outright laugh at him, y'know?

But you know what really blew me away? He stated that the Bible and Evolution are compatible, and not only that, he stated that the Bible proves Evolution. When asked "how?" he said that if you add up the days of Creation, times them by the "every day is as a thousand years to god", then add up some other days (I think the flood and days in the grave were some of them), then you'll arrive at the exact number of years for the evolutionary age of the earth. I wish I could remember the exact formula... I looked online for it but couldn't find it.

How is one supposed to counter such "educated ignorance", as I call it?

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Thats's one "brilliant' theist...lol
i love the way he manibulate things trying to convince himself that his religion makes sense..trying to prove that the bible was sending subliminal and hidden messages to us that evolution is real the question is why didn't it state such a fact directly!?
these ppl will never stop amusing me
I suppose it's better than him thinking that his bible was telling him that mankind was created 6000 years ago. At least he's trying to fit his beliefs with known scientific facts.
How is one supposed to counter such "educated ignorance", as I call it?

In this case I think deep belly laughter really was called for. Or an uncontrollable giggle fit.
"if you add up the days of Creation, times them by the "every day is as a thousand years to god", then add up some other days (I think the flood and days in the grave were some of them), then you'll arrive at the exact number of years for the evolutionary age of the earth."

Tell him the bible can also prove that evolution is false as follows: "if you add up the days of Creation, times them by the "every day is as 12 years to god", then add up some other days (I think the flood and days in the grave were some of them), then you won't arrive at the exact number of years for the evolutionary age of the earth."

There. Proof as valid as his. Of course he won't buy it, because he's not rational. He'll buy anything that he thinks lines up with the bible and deny anything that doesn't. He's beyond hope unless he changes himself. Nobody can do that form him.

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