I'm not talking about marijuana, I am talking about the hard-core drugs like Meth, Crack, etc. I am against drug usage but I have a question. What do you all think that proper punishment should be for abusers and dealers? (EDIT: I am meaning the ones that commit crimes while on the drugs or the ones that commit crimes to get the drugs. And should the dealers be just as accountable because they provided them with the drug?)

I recently watched a documentary about meth, and the officials in Thailand have simply killed off many of the users.

I personally know quite a few meth addicts here in the U.S. that, after serving their sentence for being "busted", have returned to drug abuse. Obviously, rehab and prison isn't working. 

According to the website ncvc.org, 81% of crimes are drug-related. What, in your opinion, is the best solution for punishment and what can our authority figures do to get things under control?

 

 

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So, when it harms other people (by theft, violence, financial instability for family, etc), what is the solution? These people clearly don't care about their health at this point.
Make 'em cheap, make 'em clean, make 'em legal, cant be any worse off than we are now.
sadly, you are right. It sucks to say that drug abuse has gotten so out of hand in some areas.
on some of the drugs, I do support the clean/available method. Most overdoses come from impure drugs and most binge drug use comes from the need to maximize the high because its illegal and possible that you might not get that change at certain times.
This would also practically end gang violence, since drugs are the main source of revenue for gangs.
For majority of drugs though, keep them illegal. Naturally occurring ones should be the limit in my opinion
Agreed.

Cannabis

Coka

Poppy

Mushrooms

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exactly. even the bible shows prohibition is futile; i mean, if god couldn't stop adam and eve from eating an apple, what are we supposed to do?

There is a whole range of drugs between marijuana and crack, heroin, and meth that are not as safe as pot but nowhere near as dangerous or addictive as those hardcore 3.

 

Prohibition will not solve anything. Look into history of drug prohibition, and you'll see that it is one of the most expensive pointless endeavor mankind has pursued.

 

There is a big difference between legalization and decriminalization. All drugs should be decriminalized. No one should be put in jail for recreational drug use. We don't put people in jail for being alcoholics unless they are violent, even if they destroy their relationships with their friends and families.

 

I think this is entirely the wrong way to look at it. We tend to isolate issues too much and miss the bigger picture. IE what I'm trying to say is that healthy happy people don't just become drug addicts. People who take harder drugs already had deep underlying issues to get to that point of trying these drugs. (We have deep unaddressed societal issues such as high sexual assault rates, child abuse, domestic violence, war veterans with untreated trauma) We would actually make a big dent on drug addiction if we had an adequate mental health care system and if everyone have mental health coverage. Right now most people in the US can't afford to go to therapy if they need it. These drugs are only a symptom of much larger problems and if you only try to address it as an isolated issue, you'll never make a big impact in reducing its impact on society.

Ok, but if it were legalized or decriminalized, it would be just a accessable as alcohol and people could just carry it around with them. It would be likely to end up in the hands of irresponsible children. What if a 17 year old were to sell crack to a 10 year old on the school bus (just a scenario). Should the 17 year old not get in trouble for selling it to a kid? I completely understand your logic, but I still think this would be just as big of a disaster as we already have. I mentioned Thailand, where meth used to be "legal". Employers even gave it to their workers, but it got so out of control that they had to resort to killing the citizens. I don't know about Thailand's situation personally, but from the documentary I watched, it looked pretty bad.

and Buddhism is Thailand's national religion, woo hoo!

Religion is considered an essential pillar of society, it is not only the major moral force of Thai family and community but has also contributed to the molding of freedom loving, individualistic, and tolerant people for many centuries

Religion is considered an essential pillar of society, itOM is not only the major moral force of Thai family and community but has also
contributed to the molding of freedom loving, individualistic, and tolerant
people for many centuries
yeah right!

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