I'm not talking about marijuana, I am talking about the hard-core drugs like Meth, Crack, etc. I am against drug usage but I have a question. What do you all think that proper punishment should be for abusers and dealers? (EDIT: I am meaning the ones that commit crimes while on the drugs or the ones that commit crimes to get the drugs. And should the dealers be just as accountable because they provided them with the drug?)

I recently watched a documentary about meth, and the officials in Thailand have simply killed off many of the users.

I personally know quite a few meth addicts here in the U.S. that, after serving their sentence for being "busted", have returned to drug abuse. Obviously, rehab and prison isn't working. 

According to the website ncvc.org, 81% of crimes are drug-related. What, in your opinion, is the best solution for punishment and what can our authority figures do to get things under control?

 

 

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you underestimate the imense power of the human brain... i have droped a lot of bad habits jus through sheer will power fuck the patches and gums, its all upstairs... and unlike religion i give myself credit for those things....the only question is...does he really wanna quit?

 

 

 

A bad habit is not an addiction.

i was using "bad habit" as an alternative then saying i was addicted to "various remedies" to somewhat understate the technicalities of my personal addictions and focus more on the fact that unless you were an addict (to drugs, alcohol, whatever) you cant truly know what her man is goin through

 

that was your other post wasn't it? You either had bad habits or addictions, they are not alternatives or exchangeable.

that was spoken like a true "str8 arrow" it's a matter of how the message is perceived... in this case it seems like your perception is one of a person who feels personally attacked and is on the defense trying to point out all the little technicalities that dont really have anything to do with initial statement....an addiction (in the context of a conversation)can and has been refered to as a bad habit...go to any AA meeting in america....u could hear it all day long ..........an addiction can be a bad habit but a bad habit isnt necessarily an addiction its all a matter of perspective really... within the context of the concversation that is

This is a little more than just a "shootin' the shit" conversation! :P

We are discussing real medical issues and real medical/legal avenues for managing these issues. Using inexact/vague language does not advance the discussion.

are we in a court of law? are we in a hospital or a rehab facility?.....this is just a "shootin' the shit" conversation...nothing more and the initial statement was about her man quitting smokin....if theres that much of an immediate medical danger then dude should go 2 da hospital not a blog.
A bad habit is the result of subconcious behavior (biting nailes or not changing the TP roll), while an addiction is a bad habit combined with a physiological response. Kicking a bad habit requires dedication, while kicking an addiction requires dedication and treatment. 
Nicotine cigarettes are properly medically addictive and in most places, nicotine patches are available on prescription only.
He does want to quit. He has tried several times. Sometimes he is successful for weeks, but other times it is only possible for just a few days.

My mother smoked cigarettes since age 13. Between ages 40 and 67 (present) she has quit dozens of times. Some times for 1 month, sometimes for years. This time she started smoking again after years, because she spent the Winter in Mexico and was exposed to more smokers than in Montreal. That's the problem with addiction, no matter how convinced you are about being clean while you're clean, little nothings can trigger a backslide.

Addicts are never clean, they are just in wait for the next fix. Us kids blaming her never had any influence, us kids supporting her never had any influence. An addict is never really in control.

Dear Becky

there is a latin saying "where there is man, there is society, where there is society, there is crime, where there is crime, there is punishment." My point is that we will always have crime, and punishment will barely keep up the pace as human kind moves on.

the central point is education. but then more questions arise like: how responsible is the government for that and how responsible family is. Perhaps the answers are obvious for some people like you but unfortunately, most people in this planet ignore how crucial education is from family basis to big social intertwines.

 

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