I'm not talking about marijuana, I am talking about the hard-core drugs like Meth, Crack, etc. I am against drug usage but I have a question. What do you all think that proper punishment should be for abusers and dealers? (EDIT: I am meaning the ones that commit crimes while on the drugs or the ones that commit crimes to get the drugs. And should the dealers be just as accountable because they provided them with the drug?)
I recently watched a documentary about meth, and the officials in Thailand have simply killed off many of the users.
I personally know quite a few meth addicts here in the U.S. that, after serving their sentence for being "busted", have returned to drug abuse. Obviously, rehab and prison isn't working.
According to the website ncvc.org, 81% of crimes are drug-related. What, in your opinion, is the best solution for punishment and what can our authority figures do to get things under control?
I think the dealers of "hard-core" drugs should be punished like they do right now (depend on country you live in).
I don't think a there should be a penalty for using drugs. Only when you commit a crime, whether on drugs or not, should you be punished.
My philosophy is: Do what you want as long as you don't hurt others.
"According to the website ncvc.org, 81% of crimes are drug-related." Wow, that's a lot.
"Do what you want as long as you don't hurt others."
Mathew, I love the idea, but it isn't all that practical. Does a drunk think he's a good driver ? Of course he does. They all do. Kill entire families anyway.
My point: who is the judge of whether or not you are hurting others ??
I would not ban alcohol just because some decide to drive while drunk.
I would not ban drugs just because some hurt others.
There is a difference.
I would not ban weapons just because some (very few) go crazy.
If we need bans, let's ban selfishness, greed etc.. After all driving while intoxicated means you're being selfish by risking others.
I'd rather see the ones get penalties who make crimes (selfish).
Legalize ALL drugs but increase the penalties for circumstantial things, such as providing drugs to a minor. It might work, but it will be socially difficult to pull off. There will still need to be controls, serious ones. Do you want to know that your pilot can legally shoot speed ?? That can NOT happen. So, yeah, a lot of testing will still be appropriate and folks will still end up in prison over being .. stupid.
I think it will work much better than what we have now.
It's kinda already pulled off with alcohol and cigarettes...
Though due to the negative externalities, sale of intoxicating products should always be taxed and heavily regulated by the government to ensure product safety and a price level which reflects the socio-economic cost.
On a side note, I don't mind people who we depend on staying awake can use stimulants in a strictly controlled manner. As I say this I am drinking my third cup of coffee of the day...
Wow, I been away and will be again, but.... I got a lot to say about this discussion.
81%? That is probably low. I may have mentioned that I spent some time in the big house. Quite a bit really, though it has been awhile. I met only two, out of thousands of prisoners, whose crimes were not drug-motivated. Two, really. :Obviously, rehab and prison isn't working." I guess I would have to know what 'working" would look like.
If the powers that be truly wanted to improve society by attacking the drug problem,(they do not).the approach would not be as threatening, would probably not be fought with court dates and lawyers. It is a problem, no doubt. Intentionally misrepresented, intentionally described inaccurately.
The idea that it is a severe social issue, is in fact, in itself a business, huge business.
The first thing would be the need to reclassify every category, from 'criminal behavior' to....?(whatever)
I would ask, if possession of a currently illegal drug should be punished with detainment, why not alcohol? For your camp to have a logically consistent platform, you need to include all intoxicating drugs that are used outside of a medical context. Most people wouldn't say alcohol should be illegal even if other intoxicants should, so the point might as well be moot until all intoxicants are included.