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Permalink Reply by Kairan Nierde on November 26, 2011 at 11:34pm

I believe that the last time this topic was raised, someone complained that there was already a recent thread on this where it had been debated ad nauseum.  It was debated again.   :-)  That can't have been more than two months ago and it shouldn't be too dificult to find.

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Permalink Reply by Ryan Peterson on November 27, 2011 at 9:15am

I'm sorry, I just found this sight last night, and decided to post something before I went to bed

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Permalink Reply by Darlene Edelman on November 26, 2011 at 11:49pm

Since there is homosexuality in other species, I have to say it is nature. Penguins or dogs don't make a decision in that regard.

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Permalink Reply by John Kelly on November 27, 2011 at 10:20pm

Darlene, I am pro-gay rights but I still am still trying to learn more about this argument.  I haven't found evidence that any animals show signs of exclusively preferring the same sex as there is with gay orientation.  

I think plenty of other evidence indicates that there is something to gay orientation that makes it biological.  I am interested in finding out more about this nature argument.  Do you know of any animals that do practice exclusive preference towards same sex?

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Permalink Reply by KaraC on November 27, 2011 at 10:46pm

Sheep are one example

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Permalink Reply by John Kelly on November 27, 2011 at 10:53pm

Awesome, that helped.  Thanks Kara.  I found this website as a result.  http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-03/ohs-bbh030804.php

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Permalink Reply by William C. Walker on November 28, 2011 at 10:41am

Hi Darlene, I have read of this among fish, birds & other animals.

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Permalink Reply by Darlene Edelman on November 26, 2011 at 11:49pm

I don't mind seeing the topic again. 

 

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Permalink Reply by Bill Butler on November 27, 2011 at 12:27am

Any Homosexual you talk to will tell you they never made a choice "it just felt right" to quote a gay friend of mine. I know I never made a choice to be straight it is just the way I am and I could never be attracted to a man the way I am to women. The entire choice argument is being promoted to validate homophobia its actually very similar to the teach the controversy argument creationist use it keeps the discussion going with out any facts to back it up.     

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Permalink Reply by Darlene Edelman on November 27, 2011 at 12:42am

Brain-washing and made to feel shameful.

 

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Permalink Reply by Bill Butler on November 27, 2011 at 12:49am

That is a choice to fight there nature due to social pressure they are still gay and have the same feelings but they fight the urge to act on them. However they are born Gay and always  will be some give in to pressure and try to live another way but in there heart they are still gay that dose not change just how they live and the face they show the world. The point I am trying to make is there is no switch they can tun off they might go threw therapy and live a Christian Lifestyle ie wife and kids but inside they are still a gay person just living a lie. A good example of this is pastor Ted Haggard a good christian family man who hates gays and promotes the bible but also likes to have sex with male prostitutes.   

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Permalink Reply by William C. Walker on November 27, 2011 at 1:31pm

Spot on - great example.

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