@ThinkAtheist We better spank the outrageous idea of beating kids!
I, too, am appalled by this and very much disagree with spanking kids! Causing pain in any way to anyone or anything is never okay.
Causing pain in any way to anyone or anything is never okay.
Normally I would totally agree with this sentiment, however, I do have to disagree on this specific point.
First, let me say out right that I do NOT condone child abuse in any way. However, I see it as more abusive to the child, and to society for that matter, to not discipline your children in a way that makes them actually understand that the behavior that they are being punished for is wrong. The severity of the spanking depends on the severity of the offense. I remember the one and only time that I ever stole something. It was a package of bubble gum at the super market. My mom spanked me so hard that I couldn't sit down for an hour, and she explained to me that taking something that doesn't belong to me was a very bad thing to do. The pain isn't the teacher, the pain is the motivator. We, as do most other species, learn to avoid anything that hurts, and therefore using a spanking as a teaching tool to avoid negative behavior is the best thing that you can do.
Changing the law so that it stipulates that some bruising may occur, but still outlining what exactly is allowed, is a very mature and well thought out thing to do.
Of course, anyone with common sense knows how to spank their child right? Go about your day and interact with as many people as you can. Keep track of how many people you think don't have any common sense. You'll get to double digits before lunch time. Laws like this are for THOSE people.
"Keep track of how many people you think don't have any common sense."
You for one.
You are not qualified to be a parent.
If you have children, put them up for adoption immediately.
Says the known troll on this sight. NEXT!
Can I be a troll asshole please? Thank you.
Should it be allowed? No. I can understand why a school system would be tempted to go that route, but I doubt it will be effective in addressing the issue, and it's stepping into a grey area which is best left untouched. The potential for abuse seems dramatically higher than any potential for benefit.
The bill would allow parents to give permission to others, including school officials, to spank their children, including students over 18 who are enrolled in high school.
You know, I never got this sort of thing. If you're legally an adult, you're legally an adult. You can vote, but they still ask your mommy if it's okay to spank you?
If you're legally an adult, you're legally an adult. You can vote, but they still ask your mommy if it's okay to spank you?
Yep... it's bizarre here in Australia too... not allowed to leave school grounds early/arrive late, and when you do, you have to go sign in/out. And in Australia, the legal age of adulthood for everything is 18... we could literally buy a bottle of rum on our way to school and still be treated like a child when we got there.
I believe at an appropriate age children should learn that there are consequences to their actions. Corporal punishment however seems excessive. There was a thought provoking mini series about a year ago, it was called The Slap. Based upon a book of the same name, it chronicles the fall out from one adult hitting another's child at a neighborhood barbecue. Check it out!!
There is a natural system for learning the consequences of ones own actions. It's cause and effect. Drink too much, you become ill, climb to high up the tree, you fall out and bust your ass, act aggressively, and other people will hate and avoid you. I never learned any thing from any form of punishment except that getting caught sucks and authority is not your friend.
If (and it's a big if) spanking was shown to produce results, I could maybe get behind something like this. However, spanking doesn't produce results, it produces bruises... The only reason to spank is to relieve your own anger and to be honest, that's not really a good enough reason.
...I could maybe get behind something like this.
Fair enough. It is much harder to do from the front, after all.