Why does it seem that there are so many atheists who want to go the exact opposite extreme of religion? Maybe I’m more of a humanist then because I do still have a very strong ethical code that I decided on using logic and a true sense of compassion towards others. Moral judgment can be based on the net positives it can provide for the whole of society. Aren’t we all striving to improve ourselves and our communities? Freedom is a wonderful thing worth fighting for, but if those freedoms are not for the betterment of society then we must question if that particular freedom would be best if regulated instead.
I was questioning why some feel as if things such as prostitution should be legalized…Like what would be the benefit to society as a whole? Did anyone who agreed with the legalization of prostitution think of all the ramifications that could incur by allowing a freedom such as that (from the other thread).
In Quebec, profiting from prostitution is illegal, soliciting on the street is illegal, but choosing to sell your own body for your own complete revenue is not illegal. I personally think that is the best policy.
For example, a university friend of mine (we were both studying biochemistry at the time) paid for all her university studies by prostituting herself for just over a year, during college (two years preceding university in Quebec). Two young beautiful young women ran the business out of a nice apartment and became high class call girls. They made a very brisk business. She is now a top exec in a big pharmaceutical company.
I also like the motto "a man who pays for sex is not a man".
Please explain your definition of ideologies for me. My definition of ideology is simply a manner of thinking.
I don’t think that a god created a sense of good and bad…I simply figured out on my own what I consider good and bad by establishing that what causes more harm than good is something that in most instances we can do without.
"Do we need to abandon all moral ideologies because we are atheist?" What the????
"Moral judgment can be based on the net positives it can provide for the whole of society."
Of course, that is the whole point - something that the christians that I know and heard of - just don't do.
This is what annoys me most - christians think they have cornered the market on morality.
**During 10 years in prison, of those executed for murder - 65% were Catholics, 26% Protestants, 6% Hebrew, 2% Pagan, and less than 1/3 of 1% non-religious.
I'm not counting communist countries, 'cause they wouldn't say anything anyway - probably get shot.
But very poor countries like Philippines, where birth control is banned if you are a catholic, producing a lot of children, which cannot be fed or clothed or educated, where Christianity and Islam are on the rise, where, flagellation till their backs are raw and covered in blood, and re-enacted crucifixion, complete with nails through the hands and feet, are on the rise...
Mormons and their many wives churning out dozens of children, even if their body just cannot take another pregnancy - the likes of Ted Haggard and his three years of gay sex, and all the other evangelicals, weeping and wailing when they get caught - the list goes on and on and on....
I would pit my morals and ethics and the morals and ethics of my fellow Atheists, against any christian any day - Catholics and their protected pedophiles, from the Pope down - Jehovas Witness and their protected pedophiles - teachers at private schools - a teacher at one of Sydney's most prestigious anglican private schools, been teaching there for twelve years - and a ring of his cohorts, so far 11 in all, caught with pictures of child torture and rape, from the age of eighteen months old.
The million and millions of dollars collected by all these christian charlatans.
Now tell me of the morals and ethics of christians!!!!!
As soon as someone makes the statement 'I am a christian", I run.
**Zuckerman, Phil. "Atheism: Contemporary Rates and Patterns", chapter in The Cambridge Companion to Atheism, ed. by Michael Martin, Cambridge University Press: Cambridge, UK - 2005.
I'm in total agreement with you on all statements made. I simply posed the question, I did not intend to state that i feel we should abandon our ideologies.