The atheist response to the text of the Bible is based primarily upon the young earth creationist interpretation, which is flawed. If I put myself objectively in the position of the atheist attempting to debunk the Bible I would start with Genesis Chapter 1. The Chapter passed the inspection of this former atheist.
The Hebrew verb consists of two different states. The perfect state indicates an action which is complete, whereas the imperfect state indicates a continuous or incomplete action.
At Genesis 1:1 the word bara, translated as created, is in the perfect state, which means that at this point the creation of the heavens and the Earth were completed. Later, as in verse 16 the Hebrew word asah, translated as made, is used, which is in the imperfect state, indicating continuous action. The heavens and Earth were created in verse 1 and an indeterminate time later they were being prepared for habitation, much the same as a bed is manufactured (complete) and made (continuous) afterwards.
What this means is that the creation was complete even before the six "days" of creation even began, in fact, later verses in the chapter reveal it was more than likely a long time in between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.
All that's required, for theism to flourish, is for good men (and Unseen) to do nothing --
I'm not afraid of admitting that my intellect is near that of Pooh.
“Lots of people talk to animals...Not very many listen though...that's the problem.”
-the Tao of Pooh
You'd be better off if you did. If I had the time I would translate exactly what you are saying (perhaps not what you mean) in many of these posts. You argue the point of no point. You rely on confusion or you're trying to sound smarter than what you are and probably confusing yourself in the process.
I see your donkey statement and raise you one: A donde el burro de programa?
¡Yo se! ¡Yo se!
El burro está borracho.
Creo que sí, o loco --
That's easy for YOU to say! It's all Greek to me --
I didn't know we were debunking it. Hmmm.... I must have missed the memo.
Actually, he isn't Diane, he's defending it - that title is the only way he could think of, to pique our interest --
Diane and Archy are both right. I'm debunking YEC because the Bible doesn't agree with it. I'm doing this in hopes that it will pique your interest, but I don't really have to do that. I'm the resident scapegoat of the month and as such possess more attention than I can stand.
Wouldn't your efforts be more appropriately aimed at YECs then? The discussion has piqued people's interest, maybe, but you are like a person who is trying to buy kiwis at a shoe store - in the wrong place altogether. That is unless your motive is to engage us in discussion of the Bible at all. In this regard you have been wildly successful.
I belong in the Bible-is-just-one-of-thousands-of holy-writings-concerning-thousands-of-present-day-and-historical-deities camp. I do, however, find this kind of communication to be fun at times, so I can appreciate that line of reasoning for participating in this discussion.
I think you must have quite the set of mental gonads to make the statements you make here. Watching and participating in the discussion helps me to further clarify and understand my position. For that, I thank you. Please let me know if you find out that you efforts here have been effective in moving anybody away from atheism and towards believing in your deity. Of course, you may be trying to plant seeds that will come to fruition much later and thus may or may not be linked with these conversations specifically.
Incidentally, I can trace my ability to quit smoking to a single moment when I heard one story, even though I had thought all around the topic for years.
Something just clicked. Is that how it was for you when you stopped being an atheist, and is that your purpose here - to plant those seeds? I just want to know if it works!.
@Diane - RE: "I belong in the Bible-is-just-one-of-thousands-of holy-writings-concerning-thousands-of-present-day-and-historical-deities camp" - have you thought about putting that on a T-shirt?