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Permalink Reply by dave stallworth on September 6, 2012 at 9:29pm

Here is another major problem. You have no moral standard by which to live- Your morals may conflict with someone else and who is right? The one with the biggest gun. The 20th century proved that,

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on September 6, 2012 at 9:40pm

And yet there are far more theists in prison than atheists - go figure --

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Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on September 6, 2012 at 9:45pm

@Dave Stallworth

Your childish assertions have already been debunked over and over, and yet here you are, spewing them over again in obstinate ignorance.  I've already said that even with a god-delusion, your morals are simply written by the conmen that run your cult.  Those morals change from sect to sect, from Yahweh to Allah, so there is no basis for them.  Rationality is more likely to produce homogeneous ethics/morals/laws.

Why do you pretend that none of your points have ever been addressed?  Why don't you ever respond to the rebuttals to your elementary apologetics?

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on September 6, 2012 at 10:19pm

Your childish assertions have already been debunked over and over, and yet here you are, spewing them over again in obstinate ignorance.

I remember a philosophy class where one student who was arguing with the professor over some point, kept raising the same objection over and over slightly reworded or worded into a form that meant exactly the same thing. The professor got a laugh by saying that the student was "engaging in an attempted proof by repetition." Theists do this all the time.

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on September 6, 2012 at 10:29pm

I know what you mean - I hate redundancy, I hate redundancy!

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on September 7, 2012 at 8:52am

Report all redundancy in duplicate to the Department of Redundancy Department.

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on September 6, 2012 at 10:08pm

If Christians have a moral compass, why is there so little consistency even among Christians? Some allow female clergy, some don't. Some will marry gays, some won't. Some are for capital punishment, some deplore it. Some believe in beating disobedient children, some don't.

WHERE the HELL is the evidence of a compass?

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on September 6, 2012 at 10:24pm

Then there are Christians, Muslims and Jews (oh my!) who believe in the same god, but disagree across the board on more issues than they agree on.

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Permalink Reply by James Cox on September 12, 2012 at 1:36am

There might be a compass, but their poles are moving around looking for an acceptable settling point.

A few times I noticed that 'freedom is slavery', could have won out over 'do as I command, not as I do!'

 

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Permalink Reply by James Cox on September 6, 2012 at 11:08pm

Once you get to a certain point of self understanding, much of the BS generated from excess testosterone, male bravado, economic greed, ideological true belief, youthful idealism, political sophistry, etc, can drop off a little.

I don't have a gun. I could be the biggest dog on the block if I wanted to. I want people to be ok, because the alternative is very unsettling, and seems very mean. I am not the center of universe, and I know I will die. I do not live in a 'privilaged' place, thinking that I have a RIGHT to rule or control. I have noticed my own demons a few times, and I do not feed them, much.

As a theist, you should consider yourself lucky to live in a culture where even your beliefs can have a say in the formulation of culture, and where extremism is generally not rewarded. Even I would not desire to live with atheists as the Big Dog, I like the variety.

I have lived  with people that have heavy theist beliefs, such situations are draining, and my performance always under par. The desire for conformity under such a condition drains the blood from my brain case.   

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Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on September 6, 2012 at 10:34pm

Time.  I think that the concept scared me when it first entered my head, but it has been over 25 years since that time and it's hard for me to remember how I felt back then.

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Permalink Reply by Logicallunatic on September 7, 2012 at 12:49am

Existence is the tiny sausage which is sandwiched between two very large slices of non-existence.

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