In one of the interminable threads that devolved into endless discussions of pedophilia a couple of months ago, I raised an academic question about whether those who were commenting could come up with a reason why pedophilia was "wrong" without relying on a Judeo-Christian cultural context.   The history, I argued, was that in Greece and to a lesser extent in Rome, pedophilia in some forms was culturally acceptable; only those pesky Christians managed to radically change the culture.

For me it was just an academic speculation, but apparently I was much closer than I had ever considered possible.

In a recent interview with the Times magazine, Richard Dawkins attempted to defend what he called “mild pedophilia,” which, he says, he personally experienced as a young child and does not believe causes “lasting harm.”

Dawkins went on to say that one of his former school masters “pulled me on his knee and put his hand inside my shorts,” and that to condemn this “mild touching up” as sexual abuse today would somehow be unfair.


Child welfare experts responded to Dawkins’ remarks with outrage — and concern over their effect on survivors of abuse.


I'm just curious what people think?   Even in the midst of the groping, fondling, and raping of kids, and hiding/covering up of the crimes which occurred among clergy of my faith, it was exceptionally rare that anyone actually tried to condone it as being harmless. 

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¿De me? ¡No lo creo!

Excepto durante una noche oscura y tempestuosa - entonces, asusteme --*>:) devil

I'm not sure which of my posts you are referring to, since when I trace this one back, you seem to be replying to a post you made.

Belle honey, he was joking, smiles don't worry

Maybe not. Something to do with the cat book, perhaps?

But what about Naomi?

Oh come on! Does NObody remember the teen version of Sesame Street, called, "The Electric Company," featuring a 20-year old Morgan Freeman and the late Rita Moreno?

I can only speak for myself but - sometimes (all the time) people with PTSD get so wound up with anxiety that it becomes internally painful and a way to get relief from that pain is to discharge it. Mostly its discharged in a negative way with lots of swearing and noise.
We know we do it and everytime it happens we hate it and theres always the self talk that happens after like - "next time I wont react like that" - "next time I'll do it differently" - "next time ....

Hey, what's happened to my amazing post that I just posted?  It's not showing up. 

Maybe it's waiting until you get famous!

Trying again now. 

Thank you A, but really and truly don't worry about it.  Believe it or not I like it, it's a huge compliment.  It's what comes of being awesome.  He's just a jealous insecure hater.  When I get famous the whole world's going to be on my case.  There's a direct linear relationship:

A prime example of a person wallowing in his own delusions, truly a legend in his own mind!

We're talking about a basic lack of self-worth.  Hence the compulsive and irrational nature of the trolling. 

And this kind of behaviour just makes it worse.  It's a vicious cycle of low self-esteem. 

I'm inclined, this once, to agree with you, except I suspect you're not referring to yourself, and I am. I've no doubt that a therapist would confide to you that your own lack of self worth results in your overinflating the degree of your own importance, thereby creating self-delusions, hence such phrases as, "once I'm famous" and, the "awesomeness of Simon." I don't suppose you'd care to discuss your relationship with your mother? Just asking, I really didn't expect an affirmative reply, but at least please discuss it with a therapist, it's definitely in your best interest.

Frankly, I don't see a good prognosis for you, but I wish you luck anyway.


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