In one of the interminable threads that devolved into endless discussions of pedophilia a couple of months ago, I raised an academic question about whether those who were commenting could come up with a reason why pedophilia was "wrong" without relying on a Judeo-Christian cultural context.   The history, I argued, was that in Greece and to a lesser extent in Rome, pedophilia in some forms was culturally acceptable; only those pesky Christians managed to radically change the culture.

For me it was just an academic speculation, but apparently I was much closer than I had ever considered possible.

In a recent interview with the Times magazine, Richard Dawkins attempted to defend what he called “mild pedophilia,” which, he says, he personally experienced as a young child and does not believe causes “lasting harm.”

Dawkins went on to say that one of his former school masters “pulled me on his knee and put his hand inside my shorts,” and that to condemn this “mild touching up” as sexual abuse today would somehow be unfair.


Child welfare experts responded to Dawkins’ remarks with outrage — and concern over their effect on survivors of abuse.


I'm just curious what people think?   Even in the midst of the groping, fondling, and raping of kids, and hiding/covering up of the crimes which occurred among clergy of my faith, it was exceptionally rare that anyone actually tried to condone it as being harmless. 

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Mel, are you sure of his guilt? Kansas is notorious for falsely accusing people of child abuse.

He has admitted to inappropriate touching. He continues to blame it on others, kind of in a Michael Jackson sort of defense.

Just checking - I have friends from Kansas who tell horror stories about Kansas CPS - they've been known to create cases, to keep their budget inflated, and their court-appointed attorney's are afraid to go against a judge, for fear they won't be appointed again - children<money appears to be the equation in Kansas.


W.T.F - There's nothing that would make me want to look at that link.

I certainly can't blame you for that. I did, and some things you just can't unsee.

I don't even read or watch most of the abuse-related headline stories any more. They just depress me. They very rarely address early detection and treatment. I took HLN completely off my channel list. All I'm interested in nowadays are vetted statistics, what the psych industry has to say from their vast experience, and the neuroscience of sexual behavior.



"I did, and some things you just can't unsee."

OMG OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO - I didnt even see it and Im seeing it :(


"All I'm interested in nowadays are vetted statistics, what the psych industry has to say from their vast experience, and the neuroscience of sexual behavior".

Me too - I was warned not to watch the media news.

See - I don't hate you, or I'd feed you the details --!


See - I don't hate you,

I know you dont -

Your more like an annoying older brother

Does that mean I get to pull your pigtails?



I suppose so


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