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Permalink Reply by Teri G on February 1, 2013 at 2:33pm

I think you have to be a bit of a skeptic to incorporate critical thinking naturally into your ideas and what you learn. Otherwise it has to be taught. I was always a bit of a skeptic, but I had to be taught critical thinking. It was all incorporated in my philosophy course in university. If we could somehow include critical thinking in early school like late primary or high school, but even then it most likely wouldn't work because in order to use critical thinking correctly people must be able to recognize a valid argument which means being able to recognize an invalid one. Minds that young probably wouldn't be able to fully comprehend all of it, or it would take too long for them to learn.

It's also not an easy lesson to learn. Being able to critique yourself and your own thoughts and beliefs is difficult as we see ourselves and our thoughts as 'flawless', especially when we are young or 'unenlightened'. Learning that this is actually not the case can be a tough lesson.

I completely understand your reasoning behind this thought. Maybe teaching a specific way of thinking to try and contradict all of our irrational thoughts or lessons could be the solution. However, lessons these days are exactly the opposite. They teach that questioning the validity of the lessons is wrong (both inside and outside of school), do not 'back chat', take in what is being taught to you, and most importantly think like everyone else thinks. What is needed is the exact opposite, but perhaps it is impractical with the mass number of children being pushed through the system. The entire system itself should be changed in my opinion. It does no good for the individual or his/her personal way of thinking.

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Permalink Reply by dragotron on February 1, 2013 at 3:37pm

It's also not an easy lesson to learn. Being able to critique yourself and your own thoughts and beliefs is difficult as we see ourselves and our thoughts as 'flawless', especially when we are young or 'unenlightened'. Learning that this is actually not the case can be a tough lesson.

Maybe that's a start... a class that teaches young people through experience to question their own and others thinking. Show them a series of experiments which they would likely think to go one way.

Maybe teaching a specific way of thinking to try and contradict all of our irrational thoughts or lessons could be the solution. However, lessons these days are exactly the opposite. They teach that questioning the validity of the lessons is wrong (both inside and outside of school), do not 'back chat', take in what is being taught to you, and most importantly think like everyone else thinks. What is needed is the exact opposite,

Well said... really good points. I suppose the more students the harder it is. I think one day the "classroom" will have more of a "guide" than a teacher.. and each student will have a teaching assistant program... that learns how they learn, learns their attention span, learns fundamental things about them and then teaches each student accordingly. A setting like this would also allow for individual questions, critical thinking.. As religion diminishes this will help as we will no longer be "forced" to be moderate or PC in public social settings... we will less and less need to tip toe around subjects.

I think this is the main problem with apologists for religious moderates... they're supporting the idea that its OK to think irrationally. And you're opening the possibility of irrational thinking up to everyone else around in silencing yourself in the presence of irrationality.

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