That was a great thread. Looks like the poster deleted his profile. *sniff*
Alayna, I know enough to know that I don't know what I don't know. I am an agnostic atheist. Science has not explained everything, nor will it likely ever.
Some atheists are far more dogmatic than some theists. Keep an open mind, keep exploring, ask questions, try some experiments. Ignore the condescending know-it-alls and blowhards. They are usually clueless, fearful parrots.
If you ask a legitimate question and people respond by getting in your face, I think "piss off" is a pretty appropriate, if not overly mellow, response. Keep at it. Get out of your comfort zone and read some of the hard stuff that requires keeping a good dictionary handy.
About.com - Atheism actually has some very good definitions and is a good place to get started.
I have had many experiences that I cannot explain away. I've heard my whole life that scientists say we only use a small part of the brain. With that limitation, who is to say with complete certainty what is truly natural or supernatural?
The only problem with such a belief are the times throughout history scientists have realized that they've gotten it ass-backwards wrong, such as the Piltdown man, or when they've realized that even though our current theories are good, there might be a better one, such as special relativity. We think we know so much more than we did 60 or 100 years ago - and we do- but we will think the exact same thing in another 100 years.
I think as important it is to trust the current theories are correct, is to keep the door open just wide enough to accept that they might not be.
thanks to everyone...much appreciated.
@Cass...right. I haven't "debated" much on this topic..because I find myself in the land of confusion. I'm obsessed with finding answers, and when the answers that I do find..and try out for myself, don't work, I look elsewhere. The reason debating is difficult for me at this point, is that my experiences with Witchcraft are just that..."experiences"...not "fact"....therein lies the crux of my dilemna..my heart pulls me in one direction, my head...in another...turmoil...which I have struggled with since I was a child. I am an extremely opened minded person, so even though I have had experiences, I'm I am ALWAYS open to someones take on it. There's nothing better than an "aha moment"...when someone says something that is a polar opposite of what u've always thought, and it.....makes sense...encouraging you to explore this futher...isnt that what living is about....learning new things?
I'm certainly not expecting alot of ppl to understand my way of "thinking" which obviously can be outside of the damn box....it's hard to go from...a god, to a goddess, to a god and a goddess...to none at all...even though in your head..u know it just has "to be that way"..cause it's the only thing that makes sense. On one hand..I'm a witch..and love it...I love owning my own power....on the other hand....I love science....see the internal struggle??
Perhaps you are correct Cass, in saying that past supernatural explanations are more "natural phenomena...I think alot of us WANT to see or experience things we cant' explain, esp when we loose those we love...u know? remember me just saying about having a light bulb moment? Your line:
"Supernatural beliefs traumatize people, causing them emotional and logical harm"...made me think..(see?!) That's true...because it gives us connection to something...I dunno..greater? Supreme?
And this...is where I am....studying things like Quantum Phy...reading ppl like Thomas Paine, Einstein, Mark Twain, Nietzsche.
I simply ask for time and patience, so that I may learn what it is I feel I need to...without support, that may be a difficult task..
Thank you all again.