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Permalink Reply by Misty: Baytheist Living! on August 3, 2009 at 1:19am

Copied and reposted on my twitter, facebook and myspace.

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Permalink Reply by Sarah Fonto on August 3, 2009 at 2:39am

thank you love. people have started arriving already, only a trickle so far but it is only 8.40am on a day of forcasted thunderstroms. I speant last night sticking up signs all up the track telling people where to find him.

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Permalink Reply by elaine kilshaw on August 3, 2009 at 11:19am

So sorry to hear your plight. I will spread on the news so be sure this will not be put in the background. False hopes, this man should be prosecuted. I live in Great Britain and our newspapers would have a field day. Are not the authorities doing something about this.
I do not hav e a twitter or a blog but hope to soon.
Are people so entwined in religion to think straight.
Regards

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Permalink Reply by Sarah Fonto on August 3, 2009 at 11:28am

The comune have not even returned my calls, the mayor came down late sunday AFTER the police cleared the area when things turned nasty. They blocked the road around lunchtime but an unammed barricade is no match for the desperate and the fantical. So they just came and removed it tow hours later.

Thank you so much for any help, I'd really like for our voice to be heard because here and now all the focus is on the magic water and it is like we the residents are just decoration to add to the rural ambiance.

I've contacted LEGAambientale, a hard line eco group, hopeing at least they will get back to me.

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Permalink Reply by Misty: Baytheist Living! on August 3, 2009 at 8:17am

I think what angers me the most is that these bogus claims are probably going to interfere with real medical work. No matter what's wrong with you, sitting in a boiling car, breathing road dust and gathering in crowds of potentially ill and contagious people can't be good for you.
False hope is cruel. Crueler still when it can actually cause more harm.
Good luck. I've sent it everywhere I touch!

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Permalink Reply by Sarah Fonto on August 3, 2009 at 8:52am

Very cruel, criminally cruel, a mother with a tiny tiny baby who is sick and she is desperate enough to put untested, untreated water, sourced from near when a lead factory used to stand in that fragile little bundle.

Nothing I could say would dissuade her.

thank you again.

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Permalink Reply by Dan on August 4, 2009 at 6:55am

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Permalink Reply by Sarah Fonto on August 4, 2009 at 7:20am

Just back from the mayor, the analysis is ready. the mineral levels alone render the water undrinkable. (zinc...and something else that I haven't worked out a translation for yet) Additionally very sick people have been drinking water with notable levels of pesticide. huge surpise there since we are in several km squared of rice fields which are most definatly not organic.

But still they come, at least a hundred cars so far and it is just after lunch.

The good news is that Ivo Pignatti hasn't has a single moments rest. thanks to his address and phone number placed by yours truly all up the track (stuck on every telegraph pole) and the people finding the same on the net....well what can I say, no rest for the celebrity struck of dubious morality.

the bad news is that the comune are thinking "thermal baths kind of thing", and won't halt the traffic flowing down here because they are afraid of "revolution" among the fanatics.

My question is, if this was a load of teenagers flowing down cos some idiot pop star had decided to hand out autographs and free records down here do you think they would have any qualms about shutting it down ? even if that meant breaking a few heads ?

different standards for the church I feel.

gotta run, had to cancel my son's birthday party this weekend, he is nine of Saturday, trying to find a place to hold it elsewhere but everywhere is shut in august so looks like the poor little bugger is out of luck. Which means forking out for the new DSi thingiemabob, much against my better judgment, to try and take the sting out of things for him.

We have to leave the house this weekend because I am having panic attacks, which is sort of why we left Milan and came here, I don't do well if I live in chaos, I can only visit it. Just don't know where we can go yet. I'll have to shut all the dogs (6, 4 of which very big) and the cats (5) in various parts of the house so they don't fight and come back late at night to feed, clean, water and let them have a run before they return into their dungeons.

ETA am terrible mother, his birthday is on Friday not Saturday, the party was going to be on Saturday. How could I forget when my only child was born ? Must ask a passing pilgrim to lend me their flagellation equipment for a minute.

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Permalink Reply by Sarah Fonto on August 4, 2009 at 6:12pm

As soon as I can get my hands on a detailed analysis I will love, being Italy it might take a while till the doc moves into a public domain but I have a contact in ASL and I'll see what I can do. It's a brilliant idea, list the pollutants and their known contraindications or side effects...that should make people think twice since it is very concrete, detailed knowledge that should make the water harder to swallow.

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Permalink Reply by Sarah Fonto on August 4, 2009 at 6:56pm

Oh and he is profiting, you know I said he was just into the celebrity, I forgot to add that tonight a friend of my neighbour went down to have a nose, in front of the Madonna status blessed by the priest from the sanctuary, a box, for "donations".

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Permalink Reply by Sarah Fonto on August 4, 2009 at 6:39pm

Right, am a bit tipsy. three nights of no sleep so I thought half a glass of wine would help. Instead I got a bit rule Britannia (still smarting from being told to "go home" and all the "this is OUR country" stuff I think)

Anyway, I printed up two new signs

"Is there nobody who gives a damn about the residents ?"

"C'è nessuno che se ne frega dei residenti ?" that is really rather sharp in Italian. Nicely acidic.

and

"This zone is NOT a public bathroom, for all your personal needs please go to the Santuraio della Bozzole"

Public manifestations in Italy normally require permission in rubber stamping of a scale not far from fetishism and one of the rules is public sanitation, you have to provide it. as is they are peeing and worse where they can find a quiet spot, even if it is at the side of our houses. The sanitation issue only occurred to me tonight and I intend to press it home.

I was hanging my signs in my pajamas, actually feeling rather good cos it was finally quiet again, just like the day we found the house and all the days that followed until recent events, when I got startled by a car. It was the police. They are doing rounds to check that the pilgrims are not setting up camp down here at night anymore and had just moved on a group further up the road. have to say I was a bit mortified by being stopped by a police officer, without my documents, in pajamas at 41 years old. However they turned a blind eye at the flagrant fly posting and one looked suspitiously like he was trying not to smile. they are as pissed off as we are. their job is to work on high end theft , like bank robbers and stuff and here they are taken off the big stuff to direct traffic and move on fanatics.

I am a pink spotted pajama wearing, middle aged one woman protest machine.

It is one heck of a steep learning curve I can tell you.

In theory I am getting up a dawn to take my vdo camera on a walk around to upload to youtube to show what the zone is like normally, as in not like a bloody autostrada. then later I will go out a few times and do the same to show how the whole picture changes just in mid week.

If I can stand to be down here on Sunday instead of running of to MILs house then I'll do the same when the real folly beings.

I am on a ticking time bomb here. the 15th of august is the ascension of the Madonna (the day she floated up to heaven if I understand right) and a national holiday. If this isn't under control by then ...well somebody will probably die down here, from falling down two meters in their car into a rice field, the raised dirt track collapsing under the weight of traffic or just some poor sick bugger who got too hot, too tired and too frustrated stuck in his car away from the "water of hope" for hours and expires in a puff of pilgrim fever.

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Permalink Reply by Misty: Baytheist Living! on August 5, 2009 at 3:38am

Yeah... clearly they don't care about the residents. If one of my loved ones were dying and there was genuine hope that some miracle water could save them, I'd probably pee against your house, too.
Not sure if pointing out the fact that YOU are suffering is going to make a huge difference to people that have chronic pain or disease. In fact, that might just widen the gulf of 'us vs. the heathen'
I think the angle I'd take is clearly listing all the harmful things found in that water, and maybe some Christian logic. "God's power is infinite. He can bless your own tap water as easily as this pond scum. Why wait in a hot car and drink sewage when your prayers can be answered at home? Show your devotion by faith and love, not by drinking harmful agents."
Good luck!

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