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Permalink Reply by Keith Pinster on March 19, 2011 at 7:46pm

Then you of all people should understand that the only rational people are anti-theist.  However, I'm not talking about creating a "banner of atheism". I'm talking about a banner that rational, freedom-loving people can rally under.  But part of that movement, whether you call it atheism, humanism, secularism, or whatever you want, needs to include getting the delusional religious people out of power.

 

Religion as a whole and xianity in particular is decidedly anti-American.  It preaches slavery and anti-intellectualism.  Not only does it preach it, it insists on it.  As I said, xianity is a cancer in this country.  The only way to cure the country is to remove xianity from power.  Call that movement anything you want.

Permalink Reply by SteveInCO on May 29, 2012 at 8:01am

Another problem is, that anti-theocracy is only one of a raft of issues we have to be concerned with, and we simply do not agree on the other ones.  So how do we form a coherent political force, other than forming a number of single-issue groups?  Which we already have done.  (And some of them are not exactly single issue groups, they inject a lot of other issues that have nothing to do with atheism-vs.-theocracy.  Those groups fail to get my money or support because they will piss my money away on shit I don't agree with. *cough* the atheist party *cough*)

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Permalink Reply by Keith Pinster on March 19, 2011 at 10:38am

I'm from the Northwest (Portland, OR) and have also not seen much in the way of bigotry against atheism. The xians do, once in a while, try to push their "xian principles" (like bigotry against gay marriage) through legislation, but for the most part, religion is kept to a personal level.

 

I have to agree with Mo.  Xianity is a disease rotting away this country.  We need to speak up at every chance we get that this is NOT a "xian nation".  I know it's frustrating, but believe it or not, we are making progress.  Xianity is dying the slow death with the younger people.  Church attendance is down almost everywhere.  We need to persevere and stick with the mantra "we are not a xian nation, we are not a xian nation".  People ARE listening.  It's just a slow process.

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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on September 27, 2011 at 8:09pm

A nation of christians is not a christian nation!

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Permalink Reply by Alayna on March 19, 2011 at 9:21am

That attitude is typical of Southern or Bible Belt mentality.  ppl who live in other areas thankfully dont' usually have to deal with such hate and nonsense...I'm in New England, a very liberal area..haven't really noticed any negative attitude towards Atheism...although, in this area, ppl tend to keep their opinions to themselves and not meddle in the affairs of others, esp in regards to religion.

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Permalink Reply by Scarlette Blues on March 19, 2011 at 9:30pm

@Becky- I signed your petition. That lady really is a perfect example of the delusions associated with religion. It's sad to see the news that makes it out of South Carolina.

In regards to negative attitudes towards atheism, it is very rampant in the south, specially in South Carolina. Religion rules in this state. I hope for a change in this perspective very soon but that has to start with us being more out there in society.

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Permalink Reply by Alayna on March 19, 2011 at 9:38pm

Hi Scarlette..I have many friends in the South...who are Witches...and of course, even in that "area" they fear "coming out of the broom closet".  Many of them would love for me to live closer to their areas....but I doubt I ever will...I have no desire to live my life in anymore fear than needed in the mundane life!  Hopefully, with the demise of the catholic church and all it's problems etc...all of xianity will start to fall from grace, and changes will follow, for the good of all...

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Permalink Reply by Scarlette Blues on March 19, 2011 at 10:43pm

I've met several Pagans& witches in my area and studied it for a short while. I think they are some of the coolest people I've ever met. :)

 

I've also been meeting a lot more atheists too. However, it still doesn't amount to the number of Christians in my area. We still have a long way to go in the South.

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Permalink Reply by Keith Pinster on March 20, 2011 at 10:54am

That is actually another reason for speaking out, even with bad press ("Look at how the evil atheists won't let us shove our religion down their throats!  How intolerant of them!").  It lets closet atheists know that they aren't alone and they have a supportive side of society that will not let them be bulldozed over by the religious wrong (I have a REALLY hard time saying the religious "right", even if it does mean political direction rather than ethical correctness).

 

The more people that stand up and say "this is unacceptable", the more people that will be willing to join that outcry.  Believe it or not, even the south is coming around.  I know it doesn't seem like it, but how many KKK rallies are held in public down there now-a-days?  How many religious groups are hanging "niggers"?  Yes, there is still bigotry against blacks (actually just about every race down there except whites), but that brush fire is being contained and diminishes every day.  It just takes a LONG time.  I don't think that many adults tend to turn away from their superstitions, but if we make it okay for teens to question that "authority" and be perfectly fine with admitting they don't believe in fairy tales, as they grow up, that group of self-righteous, back-water, anti-intellectuals will steadily shrink.

 

It's a long, drawn-out process. A hard-won battle, but we CAN and MUST if we want our children or grand-children to grow up in a rational, anti-bigoted, fair, and just society.

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Permalink Reply by SteveInCO on May 29, 2012 at 8:02am

You must not be in Rhode Island then.

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Permalink Reply by Walter Maki on March 19, 2011 at 10:59pm

Petition signed :)

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Permalink Reply by JØsh JankØwski on March 20, 2011 at 4:04am

We need to stand up and let them know we are here to stay!!!!

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