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Permalink Reply by Dustin on April 28, 2011 at 1:39am

what if the stairs are on fire , but over the railing lies a nice soft queen bed that just happened to be there just for you?  ;P

Permalink Reply by Austin Rozzell on April 28, 2011 at 11:30am

If that is the fact of the case, then I would slide down the rail and get there before u, but only if that was the fact, as there could be as many reasons to jump the rail as there are to use the the stairs, we both could be wrong or right.

Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on April 28, 2011 at 1:41am

Then I will KNOW that is the better route and adjust, while Epicurious up there will be left uncertain that anything can be known.

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Permalink Reply by Big Fella on April 28, 2011 at 9:23am

Blegh! The only fact I know is the fact of my ignorance, yadda yadda yadda.

Since we don't live in a philosophy book but in an observable and testable reality absolute truth is completely unnecessary to progress in live. You only need to have  justified belief to be able to make a decision, not absolute truth.

Permalink Reply by Austin Rozzell on April 28, 2011 at 11:45am

Uncertainty of knowing has stop few from action, it is the relm of chance that carries us on. How would you not know that the your presents on the stairs does not cause the natural gas to explode. But all this over stairs or a rail, I deny you your prize for I pick the window and knowing be damned. I jump. Ta ta for now. :)

PS sharp mind keep it up, oh by the way do u play chess?

Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on April 28, 2011 at 11:54am

I do not play chess because it is a solved game. At one point I had memorized 12 moves in, ignoring useless moves, and that was enough to beat anyone I ever had, or was likely to play in person.

Permalink Reply by Dustin on April 27, 2011 at 10:50pm

I know that the wearing of condoms is NOT a sin?

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Permalink Reply by Austin Rozzell on April 28, 2011 at 12:20am

For they way they look at it, you are preventing the coming of a soul, and since sin is from what I understand the relm of religion, and from a religious point of view, it is a sin to not allow a soul a life, to them it is, but to you is is not. So as as long as you don't believe in religion you won't have to worry about any kind of sin, so what you "know" may only apply to you. But in that I will have to agree that you know, you best :)

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Permalink Reply by Dustin on April 28, 2011 at 1:37am

I don't care how they look at it because they are wrong.  If someone truly thought 2 + 2 = apples , I would know they are wrong!   Don't get caught up in philosophical subjectivism.  It will disrupt your thinking :P

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Permalink Reply by Austin Rozzell on April 28, 2011 at 11:53am

Philosophically speaking, that may be true for you, however for me it is my minds food, and I do not like to starve.
All you truly know is what YOU think you do, that holds water as long as the bucket it is in, is YOU, but as is shown by reality other than yours, your is not the only bucket, nor the only bit of water. So for you that is true, but for other than you it is not. :) would you like another bite of the apple?

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Permalink Reply by Luka Rek on May 16, 2011 at 6:04pm

An apple may taste differently to every person in the world, yet it would be the one and the same apple. How we experience the outside world does not effect the outside world directly. It influences us first, and then we influence the world. Then the world changes and sends us new sensory data repeat this ad infinitum. It is also true that for any individual who ingests deadly poison he will die. However, the poison may taste differently to every person and people may even be SURE they did not ingest poison, but even if they did they would die nevertheless. To claim that your subjective experience of the world is true would be inconsiderate, but it would simply be a very cowardly thing to claim that you cannot know anything about how the reality REALLY looks like. The reason is that our sensory organs and our brain are very similarly built so the sensory input, processing and output are very similar in most normal human beings. My apple is gred, yours is bleen; we`re eating the same apple so what does it matter?

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Permalink Reply by Lindsey on May 16, 2011 at 6:34pm

Well, there is one thing I know for certain, and it's that epistemology annoys me more than any other subject of discussion.  Can't we just accept some things as reasonably justified facts without getting into a giant, mind-bending, neverending debate about how and if we actually have real knowledge? What's the point, really? Does it solve any of our societal problems? Does it make the world a better place? Does it actually contribute to anyone's understanding of how the universe works? Does it serve any purpose whatsoever other than to confuse, befuddle, and annoy? Not in my opinion.  

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