Atheists Cannot be Moral Redux
Hi All,
We had a discussion many moons ago about atheists and morality and a lot has happened since then. I reached some new conclusions (which I'll withhold for now so I don't poison the water) and at least one other poster here has some new ideas about it.
So, I was wondering what the prevailing opinion is out there on this topic. Do you believe that atheists can be "moral"? Is it impossible for an atheist to be truly moral? Is "morality" something to which adherents have a valid claim? The infamous Dawkins and Harris had a discussion at Oxford about this about a year or so ago that was very good and I would also be interested in what anyone thinks of what was discussed there.
Thanks and all are welcome.
- kk
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Permalink Reply by Kir Komrik on -
Hey Arch,
Yep, I got bumped to the top as well a few times,
- kk
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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on -
Then it's the software, good to know - I had an issue with one of the "Powers That Be" recently, and human nature being what it is, one never knows --
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Permalink Reply by Kir Komrik on
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Arch,
You get more fascinating the more you type, honey, sweetie, dear, (thinking of some other pertly word), my friend ;-) - kk
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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on
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I'll bet you say that to all the proto-birds --
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Permalink Reply by Kir Komrik on
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rflmao - kk
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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on
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Like this?
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Permalink Reply by Unseen on -
Not when morals is defined as published prescription and/or proscriptions regarding behavior, such as The Ten Commandments. Ethics are based on assessing a situation and the consequences of various responses, not on "How do I apply such and such a commandment to this situation." Confsing morals and ethics makes the situation more difficult to discuss.
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Permalink Reply by Kir Komrik on
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Hey Unseen,
Then can ethics be a process by which you can obtain moral "codes"?
- kk
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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on
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(Heavy Sigh)
And Kir wondered why I didn't want to be part of this --
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Permalink Reply by Kir Komrik on
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Arch,
Whaattt? What do you mean? You're pretty smart, and knowledgeable, you just have to try to be serious for a few minutes ;-)
- kk
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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on
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Then why the qualifier? Or did you leave out a comma, and mean that I'm "pretty, smart, and knowledgeable"?
I rarely get more than semi-serious.
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