I just left a group I joined a few weeks ago as I  have contributed not a sausage. I dont actually know why I joined as I am not against liberals or some liberal policy's

My leaning are socialist in nature barr a few right wing views which you could count on one hand.

My main  gripes are with religon, passive atheists, agnostic  sit on the fence lovlies and Glasgow celtic fans.

thats that then

i was listening the radiohead song creep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkzRNyygfk

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I agree, the fight must be taken to the anti science leagues. With the global warming denial and creationism they are undermining any respect for science. We have to beat them at this game or we are doomed. The blessed atheist at http://blessedatheist.com/ just had a good rant about Young earth creationists. he/she explains what's at stake quite well.
thanks for the link, nice
Hi there a7

I'm quite curious to hear more about your (few) right wing views :-)

I share similar gripes about passive atheists. At the same time I think that atheists should get more organized. At the moment atheists tend to just pat each other on the back for reciting empty intellectual slogans. I know that atheists make many valid points, but the arrogance with which it's voiced puts people off. No one pays attention to self-importance. One would swear that these people have nothing else to do but memorize bible texts & the works of many respected atheist scientists & biologists. Being 'book-wise' is one thing....Being able to reason for yourself is quite another.

Take care
My right winng views are
1. The state of Israel
2. Ulster
3. The war on terror
4. The Iranian problem
5. The muslumification of the UK/ world

Here at think atheist they do a good job of promoting atheisim and I have yet to encounter any arrogance , however I am aware of the arrogance and snobbery the atheist intellegencia baggage has.

I must disagree with the next part, i firmly believe that the bible is our greatest weapon against the holy, the book is so full of bollocks, lies, extremisim, contradictions and anti social thinking and thats just the fucking first page.
so to recap on that, we need everyone to make a difference and means we need the book wise people who can quote bible stories easier than i can remember yesterday.

may godlessness follow you
LMFAO!!!
this pictures brings back many a happy memory, imagine the above scene, now add lots of snow and two very drunk young lads. we were working in the very posh charlie parkers restaurants ltd, royal exchange square about 1 min from above statue. we had finsished work and went to the club next door called pazzaz, owed bby our boss. it was 6am and the sun was out, we had work that day at 10am.

we decided to get a police cone and started the clim up, my mate stuart brough, a ginger had given me a punnty up. I reached the horse and after putting the very dirty and crumpled cone on top i started to ride the horse, yes ride it. anyway as we are both laughing two local glasgow police officers turn up and tell me to get down. I told them i would only gert down after my horse was safely in its stable.

after some name calling by the police and a threat of physical violence 9i came down. I must add , they made me take of the cone.
we were both taken to stewart street police station for the remainder of that day and let out later on. we missed work. we were charged with a breach of the peace and fined £50.

the next week it was my friend stuart turn, everything went smoothly.

thanks doone, that brought back a nice memory and i told the kids what a dick there dad was on the drink. 14 byears later and no drink i miss those times

take care my celtic supporting friend
How you can be an atheist and a conservative at the same time still confuses me. Afterall... aren't conservatives ACTIVELY working to keep us from having civil rights as atheists? IDK... but I'm not going to judge... if you want to be a conservative, that's fine with me.
I can see from political or economic standpoints how atheists can consider themselves Conservatives. On social fronts, it is a bit baffling to me as well, since modern day Conservatives are so entwined with the Bible and religion as is their moral judgements.
@ sky
atheists is a person with no believe in a god or gods, it does not matter what my other views are. who are you to judge anyway, even inplying that your not going to judge.

sadly there will be atheists out there who are sex offenders, rapists, every scum under the sun but we will be only aware that they have no beliefe in a god or gods by the statement, I am an atheist.

sleep well
Umm... BTW... your link to "Passive atheists" is broken... could you please explain to me what a "passive atheist" is. I consider myself a "passivist" - b/c I think war is ugly and evil and often pointless... but what is a "passive atheist."

And when you include "agnostics" as your main gripes, what do you mean? The ppl who are agnostic atheists [ie... we don't think there is a god but we can't disprove god either - so we just say, there is probably no god, so we're going to act as if there isn't one.] or people who say that they're not "atheists" they're "agnostics."
http://atheism.about.com/b/2005/11/30/passive-vs-aggressive-atheism...

Different atheists have different attitudes towards their atheism and the theism of others. One difference which has persisted for a long time is whether to attack theistic religion aggressively or to adopt a more conciliatory stance - an atheism which is critical, but doesn't go out of its way to criticize.

as for the agnostics, simple, they are undecided, on the fence. probably no god says it all,
Hi it feels like it's months since i posted this discussion i have lost my way. Please dont think I am not answering , its just getting to much. If anyone has a question please dont hesitate to contact me.

love george

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