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Permalink Reply by Atheist Exile on April 24, 2012 at 5:06am

I'm so inured to being around religious folk. They're EVERYWHERE. I can't seem to escape them. So it's only the "true believers" that really get to me. Among them, there's some who believe in ghosts and evil spirits and who are afraid of these mental constructs. I find them pretty pathetic and beyond the reach of reason: their minds are ruled by fear. They are repulsive to me. They give me the willies.

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Permalink Reply by Gary Mueller on April 24, 2012 at 9:03am

Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Shinto they all share a belief that they can commune telepathically with an entity who will grant wishes and impart knowledge. How can you trust such an individual?

Sure they might be kind, informed, charitable so on and so on, but they truly think that a sky being talks with them and they to it...this is my prejudice

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on April 24, 2012 at 11:11am

I do it all the time without problems. So, yes, you truly ARE prejudiced.

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on April 24, 2012 at 11:44am

I'm no more prejudiced against those who are religious than I am towards anyone else, which is to say that my presumption is that they are idiots until otherwise conclusively proven.

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Permalink Reply by Teri G on April 24, 2012 at 1:09pm

So, out of interest, does their theistic beliefs count a point for or against their stupidity meter?

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on April 24, 2012 at 4:26pm

It depends, you don't have to be stupid to be religious or religious to be stupid, though it helps. It's similar to the largest secular religion in that sense: Sports.

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Permalink Reply by Dale Headley on April 24, 2012 at 12:48pm

Inasmuch as I define intelligence as necessarily incorporating, reason, logic, and common sense in order to be to be considered fully functional, I must confess that I prejudge ALL theists as demonstrably lacking any such a capacity.

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on April 24, 2012 at 3:42pm

Nonsense. Religion is only one facet of many religious people's lives. Also, many people who identify themselves as religious attend church/temple/mosque, but otherwise their religion has little overt affect on how they live or think. The vast amount of Christians I know accept evolution, the age of the universe (contrary to Biblical teaching), and just about everything science tells them. They simply nevertheless believe that God is responsible for it all, a hypothesis which, while unlikely to the degree of near impossibility, is nonetheless impossible to prove.

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Permalink Reply by Laura Dijksman on April 24, 2012 at 3:54pm

"They simply nevertheless believe that God is responsible for it all"

And in what way is that incorporating reason and logic? To believe something for which is no evidence, and to believe god is responsible for everything around you which has a much better explanation in science (namely provable and repeatable) is in my opinion really not incorporating reason and logic.

Impossible to prove? To be honest, if I were god, I'd be sick and tired of people not believing in me. There'd be an infinite number of ways in which to prove my existence, from the all obvious showing yourself to ALL people on the world at the same time, which would be a piece of cake if I were a god, to very small less obvious but still very noteworthy and easily repeatable ways. After all these years of people still not believing in me and as a matter of fact, all the time having less and less people believing in me, i'd give up waiting for people to be able to convince everybody that i really existed and do the job myself.

oh but wait.... here is your chance to put in the all famous response to that: god needs you to believe in him without making you... riiight. If a scientist would use that argument he'd never have a job again so why would that argument hold here?

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Permalink Reply by D. Lee on April 24, 2012 at 2:15pm

"Medically speaking, it was just brain surgery. But for some patients, it was a spiritual reawakening. " - ABC News

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/god-brain-tumor-surgery-p...

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Permalink Reply by Helen Pluckrose on April 24, 2012 at 3:38pm

I admit my heart sinks when someone says they believe in a god and I am inclined to think they are not my sort of person. It is not so much their intelligence I doubt as their values and judgement. I have the same feeling about the judgement of people who believe in star signs or psychics tho I am less inclined to feel negative about their values. I also have a prejudice against people who pronounce t as a sort of glottal stop - I am English. There is a woman at the school always yelling for her child and I am so tempted to ask 'Why did you call your child 'Natalie' if you can't say it?' 'Na"alie! Na"alie' This is entirely my own stupid prejudice because enunciation says absolutely nothing about a person - that i probably nothing to do with my atheism tho.

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Permalink Reply by Laura Dijksman on April 24, 2012 at 3:47pm

lol funny and very true, I do the same thing...

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