I feel there is a new cult religion on the rise, and  it may be some sort of demented warped version of a disbelief made to fit an idea. I was reading this article, and many people had the same concerns as me

"What happens in a Atheist Church"


There is a concern among some non-believers that atheism is developing into a religion in its own right, with its own code of ethics and self-appointed high priest

"It will become an organised religion. It's inevitable. A belief system will set in. There will be a structure, an ethical outlook on life," says architect Robbie Harris.

I understand people like to come together in a common cause or value, but congregating and having sunday meetings is a completely different thing. Things like this really anger me, because this is exactly the opposite being a free rational thinker or skeptic. Other than being an Atheist, we are all independent of our actions and thoughts, we are all our own individual self. We are not connected in any eternal bondage or any of that other nonsensical ideologies.

This is exactly how cults and religion start. It may start out as a harmless thing, but eventually someone will come and try to brainwash and manipulate others to follow that individual as some sort of demi god leader. I just doon't understand why some Atheists or free thinkers or rational thinkers feel the need to give atheism religious characteristics

I would like to hear your opinions on this matter.

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I expect that someone coming in to make a case for being 'saved', will be ment with jeers and offered a six pack of 'You are not Welcome' beer. It might be very fun to have someone that has some deep understanding about church history, which I would attend as time allowed.

Sounds like a happening place. I wonder how many times a year they need to call a fire truck to extinguish the burning cross on the front lawn? Maybe they have a desert rock feature? I think if I ran the place I would actually build a cross with a 'For Rent sign' on it, just in case the local rabble need some target for their frustrations.

If I ever get to Texas again, my last trip was summer 1975, I'll try and look them up.



Some people are happier with a social community.  At present, religion offers that, and for the most part, atheism doesn't..  I see no automatic problem with atheism growing such that it can offer that, too...  In fact, I think it's a good idea, on whole. 

Yet, it does have some potential issues, if this church starts telling people how or what to think..

People give it religious characteristics because humans have an overwhelming desire to be a part of a community. I know this quite personally because of my life, my beliefs and whatnot. I am mixed with a few different ethnicities and I witnessed the "sheep" mentality first hand. I've been told I'm not this, or not that, therefore I don't fit in. Everyone wants to be a part of something and "atheists" making their personal NON beliefs into a religion is pretty much inevitable because we all want to be a part of the herd. Then it turns into "my herd is smarter than your herd" and so on and then you have wars. Sure, it doesn't quite escalate that quickly, but you probably get my point.

I'm a "satanist" (I don't worship the devil, please look into this before you make ignorant assumptions). Before I became a satanist, I was just an atheist. Somehow, I got caught up in the herd mentality and latched onto satanism because, pretty much, they're just atheist's without the humanistic aspect, and quite frankly...I think stupid people should just....die off. Survival of the fittest, no? As much as I tried to dodge following into this mentality, I managed to search out a "religion" that I could walk with so I wouldn't feel so alone.

Anyways, that's my take on why people are slowly turning atheism into a religion. Of course, this is all just speculation and I in no way am trying to say these are facts.

Hi Elena

I did a little research on the subject of Satanism in order to refrain from ignorant assumptions, and I learned about atheistic satanism, to which I believe you refer.  I'm going to zone in on what wiki calls the 11 satanic rules of the earth.  Most of them seem reasonably sane, although I see where they support cruelty towards and destruction of your 'enemies' and I'm not sure whether that is a vile doctrine or is a true reflection of how humans actually are.  That doesn't sit well with me.

The one rule that did stand out was this:-

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

Now I do have a bit of a problem with magic.  Does satanism require you to believe in magic?

I'm asking because I don't like to make spontaneous judgements without sufficient information.

No, the magic they refer to is universal energy within the universe that no one can deny is real. It's negative and positive energy. I admit, there's some things I don't agree with within the "religion"

Thank you.  I'd be interested to learn more about it, because this is the first time I've come across it, having waved off the odd encounter with the term 'satanist' as either a Christian insult, or some kind of devil-worshipping cult, and I see that I have been mistaken.

I'm not sure about the 'intolerance' related aspects.  However, the nice shiny Christian motto of "love thy neighbour" doesn't seem to work that way in real life anyway, so I'm not sure exactly where I stand on the matter.  Thanks for being so open :)

You're welcome! The thing is, Satanism is a religion of people who have RADICAL ideas that seem void of morals (such as keeping the population low, religious mockery, the idea of do NOT turn the other cheek, etc) but really it is all common sense and completely logical. I reject the idea of any gods or god because they stifle the growth of humanity. But that's just my opinion
You cannot deny the existence of negative and positive energy. There is an energy in the universe keeping us balanced; I don't think this energy is supernatural or that it cares for us in anyway, that's ridiculous lol like I said before...there's some things I disagree with, such as their transhumanism beliefs, but overall, I agree with most of their tenants. And yes, I DID trade my beliefs. It's tiring trying to be so caring for the foolish and willfully ignorant

Elena if you look at the top right of the TA page there are 'friend' requests.  You have to be 'friends' with someone you wish to dialogue privately with.  I'm just interested in knowing more about your choice of 'faith' and would be happy to continue my questions there so as not to hijack this thread.

Blaine, I see your point and I am not arguing in any direction here, simply because I don't know enough of the matter to comment. 

Kinds of energy are listed below. Which/what kind/kinds are you talking about?

Thermal energy
Chemical energy
Electric energy
Radiant energy
Nuclear energy
Magnetic energy
Elastic energy
Sound energy
Mechanical energy
Luminous energy
Mass (E=mc²)

I suppose we can add so-called "dark energy" as well. 

You sound to me like one of those New Agers who refer to a nebulous positive/negative "energy" which never really gets defined and is used to jawbone about but really is meaningless, much like the so-called "MacGuffin" of fiction: (A) MacGuffin (sometimes McGuffin or maguffin) is a plot device in the form of some goal, desired object, or other motivator that the protagonist (and sometimes the antagonist) is willing to do and sacrifice almost anything to pursue, protect or control, often with little or no narrative explanation as to why it is considered so important. The specific nature of a MacGuffin may be ambiguous, undefined, generic, left open to interpretation, or otherwise completely unimportant to the overall plot. (source)

Lol got it ...I'm at work on my phone. Boring night. Sure add me, that's the whole reason I joined. I should probably get to work anyways.


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