Argument: Naturalistic Pantheism Has "Proof" of their "God"
I need some feedback on the assertion that Pantheists have proof of their god because their god is nature. This was brought up by someone on a forum after my response to a Creationist when I said that there is no proof for any gods (and alluded specifically to Abrahamic gods). The poster said that there is no proof for ANTHROPOMORPHIC gods - but then suggests that Pantheists have proof of their god because nature is god to them and nature exists.
Thoughts? Counter-arguments?
Tags: argument, evidence, existence, god, nature, pantheism, pantheists, proof
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Permalink Reply by Simon George on -
Who freeze dries dog turds?
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Permalink Reply by James Cox on
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This is a very good question! Maybe in preperation for the fabrication of synthetic coprolite? Would the federal grant program actual offer moneys for this? LOL
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Permalink Reply by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on -
Hi Reesie
Here is a great video by Dan Dennett. It covers your question to some extent as well as the “Deepity” concept. God is not a concept. The concept of God is a concept and the concept of god exists. If in a hurry just watch 14:00 to 17:30. Better though to set aside 45 minutes with a coffee.
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Permalink Reply by Dale Headley on
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Tweedle dumb and tweedle dee.
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Permalink Reply by Doug Reardon on -
Sounds like Einstein's god: "those laws by which the universe functions." Hell, even a hard core atheist like me wouldn't argue with that.
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Permalink Reply by Reesie on -
Well he's arguing that because some people consider nature to be god, and nature exists, that equates proof of god and it doesn't. The CONCEPT of god being nature exists, sure. But that doesn't make it PROOF of god. There's no absolute certainty behind it and I'm not sure how they would even go about proving it either.
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Permalink Reply by Unseen on -
In that case God exists because fecal matter exists. Since fecal matter exists, God exists.
At any rate, WTF kind of god is nature. Nature just is. Is a god who just is any kind of god to worship?
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Permalink Reply by Reesie on
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It's a logical fallacy. That's all there is to it. He just keeps asserting and insisting on the same point.
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Permalink Reply by david garcia on -
right he is dumb.. saying he thinks god is nature doesnt prove god exsist.. and then he said "it can " and he is just assuming.. you should be able to destroy this argument pretty easy .. in the end.. he still has not proven anything..
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