Are modern atheists suffocating atheism with liberalism?

For starters, I’m an agnostic (pretty close to atheist), I don’t really have any thoughts on whether a God exists or not. I do however, have some thoughts on how this…”battle” between Atheism and Religion seems to be shaping out. I have many friends who are both atheist and religious, but almost all of them believe what they believe because they have researched their beliefs (to one degree or another) and have a decently solid basis for it. Now, it’s a well-known fact that most people are religious because their parents were, and they grew up with religion. With atheists, it’s quite a different story. Let me get to the point…

 

It saddens me to say this, but it seems like more and more atheists, especially internet atheists, are simply “converting” to atheism either because they hate religion (most notably Christianity) or are attracted by a lifestyle where the only rules of morality are the ones they themselves create. Whether they actually believe what they say they do, (or rather, disbelieve), is an issue that is put on the backburner. I feel that many of modern atheists simply accept disbelief of God on the basis of simple arguments, all too willingly, motivated mostly by their desire to be “free” of religion and its “restraints”. This growing propensity seems to be bolstered by the fact that many atheists (especially those on the internet (i.e. r/atheism) will openly support religions like Satanism, if only to piss of Christians. As I wandered from one atheist internet forum to another, I didn’t see any intellectual threads talking about something of value, such as “Why I choose to believe/disbelieve.” Instead, I saw scores and scores of threads discussing such topics as “The War on Christmas” and “The ignorance of Christians” and of course, the textbook “THINK OF THE HOMOSEXUALS” (Boo fucking hoo).

 

This trend has grown to such a degree that, to many people, atheism doesn’t mean “disbelief in God” or “disbelief in religion” anymore, as it should, but more markedly, “anti-religion”. People have literally come to equate atheism with liberalism, where the only form of morality is the Golden Rule and anything that is related to religion in anyway is evil. People have come to believe that being an atheist is simply giving yourself a license to do whatever you want (similar to the video below)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4k29N556c

Nothing could be farther from the truth. As I said before, I am an agnostic with atheistic tendencies. However, I do not condone drinking, drugs, fornication, cursing, or (and I don’t care if this offends anyone) the practice of homosexuality. I condemn these things on a scientific basis. Jared Taylor, one of the foremost advocates of the far-right community, and a staunch atheist himself, holds the same set of moral (or as I call them, efficient) values.

I sincerely believe that this growing delusion that atheism = liberalism, that atheism = license, or that atheism = freedom (from more than just religion) flies in the face of the facts. Again, more and more people seem to be becoming atheists simply because they downright despise religion or are attracted by the idea of a life without any rules, where they can be “chill” and “nice” to everyone. This growing fad has left the atheist community with a shortage of real intellectuals who seek truth rather than license, and leaves us instead with the rabid, seething masses of ignorance, such as the kind that breeds at r/atheism. “I WANT TO DO WHAT I WANT WITH MY BODY, BREAK THE CHAINS OF STUPID RELIGION, FREE THE SEXUALLY AND THE PHYSICALLY REPRESSED, DOWN WITH THE OLIGARCHY” This is not atheism, this is barbarism and primitive, devolved man, seeking to gratify base desires and drag down society with him and using atheism/relativism as a shield to deflect all criticism and attack opponents with impunity.

That being said, I feel that atheism is being abused in modern society, our community has become starved for real intellectuals and filled to the brim with neck-bearded anti-religious whack jobs seeking to gain a vantage point so that they can unload their vengeance upon society for “holding them back”. And frankly, I’m tired of it.

Thoughts?

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"A gentlemen, a person of superior blood,"

""classless". People with superior breeding, genes, and control"

Talk like this really bothers me as it comes down very close to the beginning of eugenics.

Anyway you are an idiot if you think swearing or lack there of has anything to do with genetics.

What is wrong with eugenics?

It violates people's autonomy and right to procreate. Regardless of how effective it can be, these violations mean it is no longer considered an acceptable thing for a society to practice.

Also, Hitler did it... so many people associate eugenics with Nazism.

Hello, I became an atheist because I hated religion.  I had given up religion for some time before I found out there was a word for it other than godless heathen.  

Hahahahahahaha fantastic!

Nate800, can't believe i read through that tripe. Certainly not worth my time to critique...

Atheism cant be suffocated by any other ideoloy. Ateísm is lacking belief in something...nothing else. You are conflating atheism with humanist influence on those who tend to be atheists in Western cultures. Do a little more research. You clearly haven't.

Second...you need to grow the f**k up and work out morality on your own. You clearly haven't as everything you said is a set of ignorant cliches that are so sad I want to almost cry there are still so many people like you out there. Figure out morality for yourself...and then you will be slightly closer to becoming an adult...one that we can respect at least.

I'm with Strega. I need a Hit and a shot after reading this, lol....Nate, you should be glad I'm in a good mood right now.

I guess just to say, I didn't "convert to atheism." lol....I saw through religion. Big difference.

"... more and more atheists, especially internet atheists, are simply “converting” to atheism either because they hate religion (most notably Christianity) or are attracted by a lifestyle where the only rules of morality are the ones they themselves create.

- the religious lifestyle is often found wanting, and sometimes it chews people up and spits them out.  Maybe people are running away from it. 

"Jared Taylor, one of the foremost advocates of the far-right community, and a staunch atheist himself, holds the same set of moral (or as I call them, efficient) values.

- uh-oh. 

"... so that they can unload their vengeance upon society for “holding them back”". 

- That's you. 

"... our community has become starved for real intellectuals and filled to the brim with neck-bearded anti-religious ..." 

- I have to agree with you somewhat.  Along with moral philosophers, I do feel that atheists like Richard Dawkins have been barking up the wrong tree for a long time. 

"... whack jobs ..."

- ????

"I do not condone drinking, drugs, fornication, cursing, or (and I don’t care if this offends anyone) the practice of homosexuality. I condemn these things on a scientific basis.

- what is your scientific basis? 

The political battle lines for me are not about conservatism versus liberalism, but rationalism versus "scripturism". Atheism is just one outcome from rational thinking.

Why are you an agnostic?

I always felt that to live in a peaceful harmonious  world, people need to be tolerant of others...If some  prefer to believe in a deity and all the myths and rigid rules that go with religion, then so be it....Those of us who prefer not to Believe, deserve to be tolerated and allowed  to live our lives as we see fit....No person is perfect ,so using  cuss words when agitated should not be used  by anyone in judging that person's  character or morals.......Homosexuality has finally been accepted as natural behavior and is not a Choice as so many  say.  It is a lifestyle that is acceptable to those born that way and has a place in a civilized society...Anyone who still denigrates same sex love is living in the past and needs to educate themselves in today's  morality......Religion, to many atheists, is a cult and uses  indoctrination of the very young to brainwash and manipulate so as to perpetuate their ideology.....In most cases, after many years of education and critical thinking, many of us have determined that religion is filled  with untruths.......Atheism is merely our way of declaring that we are Non Believers, and that a normal, moral and civil life can be had without  a god to guide us...

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