Our understanding of Jesus and the purpose of the Bible differs.Most of us Atheists see Christians as waiting for the impending. We've all been to church and heard "Be prepared, because you never know when he'll return." The Left Behind series of books is all about the Rapture and it was a mega seller. So a conversation got started on a video post
that I think could be carried over to a discussion. The gist of the conversation;
I wonder how long society will keep waiting before people will go, "You know what? It looks like Jesus is a no show." Until the year 3000? The year 4000?- Mario
"So the idea of Christians "waiting" for his return like those waiting for the Hale-Bop comet is very much a straw-man/caricature, even though it was probably introduced by some stream of Christianity. I would say that if all they do is "sit and wait", then they are misunderstanding why they are waiting." - Daniel
The entire purpose of both the Old and New Testament is for the hope of a return of the Messiah or the Son of Man. Neither happened as prescribed. Here are some of the passages that support the consistency of that.
Daniel 7: 2-14 (Messiah return and rule) Daniel 7:17-27 (beasts destroyed by Jewish leader) 1 Enoch 69 (Judgement and Son of Man) 4 Ezra 13:1-11 (Multitude and Beast of Sea taken on by Messiah without raising a hand [Queue the He-Man theme]) Mark 10:29-31 (Turn away your family because you will soon face judgement) Matt 20:16, Luke 13:29-30 (you will wind a all expenses paid vacation to heaven) Mark 8:38, Mark 13:24-27, Luke 17:24, Matthew 24:27, 37-39, Luke:8-9, Matt 10:32-33, Luke 21:34-36, Matthew 13:24-30 & 36-42, Matthew 13:40-43, Matthew 13:47-50 - These are just 4 pages of Ehrman's Jesus Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium.
I really see Christianity as a group of people spiritually standing around (of course they have continued living their physical lives) waiting for His return. This was the same for many of the predecessors in Palestine. Wait for the prophecies to fulfill and then live in peace and harmony with a Jewish King from the line of David or we are all off to Heaven. This is what the hope of the Bible is about. Just an FYI, John 5:28, "Don't not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out-those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned." I don't accept the Christian argument for reaching heaven before the rapture, and this passage doesn't hurt my imminent return argument either.
Why is my view right or wrong, and what do you see? If you were (or are) a Christian before, did you feel as Daniel does now? What is this hope if not the coming return?