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Permalink Reply by Albert Bakker on January 7, 2012 at 7:51am

I agree, in fact you can even (in a preliminary manner) quantify that "beyond reasonable doubt" position by using Bayesian analysis, like this way I learned in Sunday school: http://foxholeatheism.com/absence-of-evidence-is-evidence-of-absence/

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Permalink Reply by Kir Komrik on January 7, 2012 at 11:03am

Hey Albert,

 

Uber, uber nice! Thanks for that link. I'm going to dig into it tonight and reply, but yes, the whole "absence of proof is not proof of absence" mantra can be and often is overused.

 

- kk

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Permalink Reply by percy on January 7, 2012 at 7:59am

from my point of view there is PROBABLY no god and I can't know otherwise so why worry :D

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Permalink Reply by Diane on January 7, 2012 at 8:08am

At my core, I do not believe there are any deities.  I can't say with certainty that there aren't, because one cannot prove a negative.

If you are wondering if I lay around at night questioning my atheism, the answer is an unequivocal, "No."

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Permalink Reply by Jason on January 7, 2012 at 8:58am

"Are Atheist Certain".

Are Atheist Certain of what?

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Permalink Reply by Ron V on January 7, 2012 at 9:35am

Do we live our lives based on certainty?

Are you certain you will not be killed in a car accident- yet continue to drive?

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismatheistsriskhell/a/CertianGod.htm

 

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Permalink Reply by Kir Komrik on January 7, 2012 at 11:06am

Hey Ron,

 

This is another great way of pointing out a common theme you and I have. There is a concept of "reasonable doubt" involved here that requires us to act without absolute certainty. We drive our cars because to fail to do so based on the risks is "not reasonable". Thanks for the link.

 

- kk

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Permalink Reply by Ron V on January 7, 2012 at 9:35pm

You're welcome.

And by the way, I enjoy reading your commentary.

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Permalink Reply by Neil C. Reinhardt on January 7, 2012 at 9:53am

I am absolutely certain I do not KNOW IF there is a god (or gods) or Not! Thus, I AM an AGNOSTIC!

I am also absolutely POSITIVE there is NOT sufficent factual evidence (ZERO!) any god, or gods are real! Therefore, I AM ALSO an ATHEIST!

And I am an ATHEIST ACTIVIST!

SO YEA, I AM VERY CERTAIN!

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TO "Maurice Whitehurs" WHO SRIKES ME AS BEING JUST ANOTHER PRR! (PROGRAMMED RELIGIOUS ROBOT)

ONE WHO HAS NO CLUE THE ODDS ARE ABOUT 100% THE ONLY REASON HE BELIEVES IN THE RELIGION AND IN THE NUMBER OF GODS HE DOES IS BECAUSE OF WHO RAISED HIM.

THE ODDS ARE THE SAME THAT THE REASON HE DOES, OR DOES NOT, BELIEVE, AS OVER 3 BILLION DO, IN MANY GODS IS BECAUSE OF WHO RAISED HIM.

WHILE HE CAN NO MORE PROVE THERE IS NOT ONE GOD, OR NOT MANY GODS, THAN WE ATHEISTS CAN, FOR DAMN SURE WE JUST "DIS-BELIEVE IN ONE LESS GOD" THAN HE DOES!

WHILE THERE ARE OVER A BILLION ATHEISTS WORLDWIDE AND SOME WHERE RAISED AS ATHEISTS, MOST OF THE MANY MANY MILLIONS OF ATHEISTS IN THE UNITED STATES WERE ONCE
RELIGIOUS,

MANY OF US CHILD, HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU ARE AND WE KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN MIND AND ARE WILLING TO DO SOME ACTUAL THINKING, THE ODDS ARE GOOD YOU WILL BECOME ANOTHER "FORMER RELIGIOUS PERSON" AND AN ATHEIST AS WELL.

YOU SEE CHILD, WE NOT ONLY HAVE MANY MILLIONS OF FORMER CHRISTIANS AND JEWS IN OUR RANKS, MORE OF THEM THROW THEIR RELIGION ON THE TRASH HEAP OF HISTORY WHERE IT BELONGS AND THEY BECOME MORE "FORMER CHRISTIANS".

AND FYI, ONLY ABOUT 25% OF THOSE IN MANY EUROPEAN COUNTRIES BELIEVE IN ANY GOD, OR GODS. SAME FOR NEW ZELAND AND ITS BIG NEIGHBOR AUS.

RELIGION IS LOSING OUT LIKE MAD IM MANY FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES.

SO WEEP CHILD, WEEP!

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Permalink Reply by Artor on January 7, 2012 at 11:38am

Please, lay off the caps lock. It's really annoying to read.

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Permalink Reply by Tex on January 7, 2012 at 1:03pm

Really? It doesn't bother me one tiny little bit. Isn't that strange about people?

REALLY, NOT ONE TINY LITTLE BIT!

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Permalink Reply by Rob Klaers on January 8, 2012 at 4:48am

Tex.. it's a matter of courtesy for one. All Caps comes across as yelling. Since most people don't yell in the middle of polite conversation, it is also not accepted online.

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