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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on March 29, 2011 at 8:28pm

Oh yeah! The main use of the "cosmic sphere" now-a-days is for locating specific stars and constellations from a point on the Earth.

A star is located based on Latitude, altitude, ascention and declination. [or in one hemisphere, in hours instead of ascention - I think]

Jeez I'm getting on a tangent... trust a science geek right? lol

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Permalink Reply by Ryan E. Hoffman on March 29, 2011 at 12:58am

Over/Under until people stop responding to this attention seeking, no hard question answering behavior.

I'm going to set it at 3 weeks.

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on March 29, 2011 at 2:17am

Dear Kevin,

 

The biggest mistake is theists quote the bible. The thing that theists don't understand is, Atheists come from READING the bible, a book written by superstitious tribesmen, who want power and control, through fearbecause they are men with small penis syndrome.

Atheists know the bible, that is why, no matter what you quote, we will come up with either a contradiction in same said bible, or cringe at the violence, torture, and understand that your god is violent, petulant, tantrum throwing and vindictive. Besides the fact that I can't get past The tree of knowledge bit, the talking snake, etc.

Genesis 3:16

To the woman he said,

   “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; 
   with painful labor you will give birth to children. 
Your desire will be for your husband, 
   and he will rule over you.”

 

This is just ONE of many quotes from this petulant god.

 

We don't get emotional. We get intellectual. You want to follow this sort of wonderful person, who spouts once again, mean spirited "fool', go for it - I will not, could not, follow anyone that spouts this sort of vile, vindictive rubbish. I wear with pride the name "fool, if it comes from a christian who is quoting from his god, and from a book that I know is codswallop.

 

Cheers - Suzanne

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Permalink Reply by Kevin Harris on March 30, 2011 at 3:43pm

I think it is often a mistake to simply quote the Bible to my atheist or skeptic friend. I think you'll notice I only do it when a question of internal consistency arises.

As with other things, one can falsify Christian Theism a couple of basic ways: Are the acts of God coherent and consistent in the Scriptures (internal)? Is there a God who can act (external)?

And honestly, I don't know what to make of those child-birth passages. It just seems that the Fall screwed things up royally and got a lot harder via God's direct and indirect judgment. She already would have had labor pains, but they were "greatly increased" after she was removed from the comforts of Eden.

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Permalink Reply by Cara Coleen on March 30, 2011 at 3:53pm

But what if childbirth for human females is only worse than for other animals because our craniums have grown large to accommodate our massive brains (in proportion to our body size) as our species has grown more intelligent? Our heads are too big for our hips, and it's actually our brain-size that complicates childbirth. Our primitive ancestors had smaller heads (much like other primates today).

This is evidence of evolution. If our bodies were the result of intelligent design, you have to question the intelligence and forethought of the designer. I realize that "sin" is the reason for the world's imperfections, but I find that absurdly implausible. And insanely cruel. Eve disobeyed once and then God blew up the size of our brains so our heads couldn't fit through the narrow passage in our hips? Nice, God. Really nice.

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on March 31, 2011 at 2:04pm

To be perfectly honest, I became an atheist when I started reading Snotte Sturlason's king sagas concurrent with having Christianity in school and not being able to tell the difference (around age 11-12)...

My knowledge of the Bible is shameful low for an atheist ;) 

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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on March 29, 2011 at 4:54pm

Geh... according to the bible we are. Funny thing is... it's often the OTHER side of the god equation that tend to be fools, gullible, child-like, apocalypse-orgasmic, self- and group- hypnotists, control freaks, etc. Who's the fool? I think they are.

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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on March 29, 2011 at 5:05pm

Or rather, I meant the "bible banging nut-cases" who accept on blind faith are fools.

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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on March 29, 2011 at 5:07pm

PS... I respect you that you were brave enough to enter an atheist-majority social networking site and talk about "the great unspeakables" with atheists without being a bible-banger. Thanks for the sanity! ^_^

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Permalink Reply by Kirk Holden on March 29, 2011 at 5:41pm

If I have an IQ of 87, anything I might say could be randomly and unintentionally correct. I might guess the speed of light in a vacuum or the acceleration of gravity but I would still have an IQ of 87.

 

I could then proceed to foolishly say other random things and be wrong. And my IQ would remain 87.

 

As a cognitive atheist - that is a well-read and educated atheist - I can avoid being called a fool. I am not randomly guessing the the universe is 13.72B years old. But I may find myself in agreement with *some* of the fools statements but not others. Wise women and foolish men can agree on many things.

 

If I turn it around... "Everyone who says in his heart there is no god is a fool." I would be saying something entirely different. That is not what the verse says in an English translation. Which is the version the people that pester me are speaking generally.

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Permalink Reply by Will Sloan on March 29, 2011 at 10:52pm

Just a reminder everyone! April 1st is Nat'l Atheist Day... you know, cuz we're fools. Hur hur...

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on March 30, 2011 at 4:16am

I didn't know there was such a thing - found this on the internet - 

 

http://www.christianlibrary.org/authors/Grady_Scott/atheistday.htm

 

Have to be in the mood to sent him an email - if more atheists can send this lovely person an email - all the better - just for fun.

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