America won't do a thing about Uganda's anti-gay law

So Uganda's president has signed the anti-gay law. And Obama shook his finger and said, "You shouldn't do that." .....and that's it. There will likely be no other reprecussions, because America is helping Uganda fight terrorists in Somalia.

I think we should air-drop condoms, lube, and pamphlets with accurate medical information on human sexuality (oh, sorry, it's called "gay propaganda" now) all over the country, and let the damn President of Uganda try to stop us. What do you think?

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Actually, air-dropping food or condoms or information is my solution to most world problems...

Evangelical Christian minister and anti-LGBT hate monger Scott Lively, who has traveled the world urging officials to take action against homosexuality, has long been noted for spurring on the Ugandan authorities who passed this legislation.

Lively's infamy includes founding Abiding Truth Ministries (which the Southern Poverty Law Center regards as a hate group), calling for the criminalization of "the public advocacy of homosexuality", and co-authoring 'The Pink Swastika' which states that "homosexuals [are] the true inventors of Nazism". Lively is directly linked to the new anti-gay legislation in Uganda which made homosexual conduct punishable by a lengthy prison sentence or death. (source)

But there may be one little silver lining.

A prominent Ugandan gay rights group sued Scott Lively in March 2012 under the Alien Tort Statute, which allows non-citizens to file suit in the U.S. for alleged violations of international law. A federal judge ruled in August 2013 that the lawsuit could proceed, rejecting Lively's efforts to dismiss the case and saying systematic persecution on the basis of sexual orientation violates international norms.

(I once briefly engaged Scott Lively in the comments section of, a newspaper in Springfield, Massachusetts where Abiding Truth Ministries is based, shortly after the lawsuit was announced. Lively, a preacher and an attorney, is extremely slick and well-spoken enough to come across as credible to some folks. He is a gifted, professional liar.)

I wonder what sort of reparations would be awarded to the Ugandan litigants if they win. I imagine Scott Lively would have to cough up some serious coin. That assumes a dollar value could be attached to the damages resulting from persuading a foreign government to round up LGBT people for caging or killing.

While we're at it let's mass drop cellphones and such over North Korea. 

I'm not sure the aid being cut off is a reaction to just the government. These laws are popularly supported. Uganada is not a deathly poor country or severely under developed. This money is best spent creating schools in Madagascar or Cape Verde. Not in a county where the population votes for the brutal supression of its own people.

Big time sad. :(

"Drop in the bucket" is right. According to these two articles from slate and the BBC, there are 38 African states that criminalize homosexuality even before Uganda joined the club.

Here's another problem, though. Western government threaten to withhold aid from poor countries who mistreat their homosexuals. But western religious groups are always very active in sending missionaries to Africa; and some of those same western missionaries are the ones lobbying for anti-gay laws. So if governments and secular NGOs pull out in protest, that leaves the Africans even more dependent upon church groups, and thus even more open to what the church groups have to say... :(

I can't believe people are doing this. I wish I knew what I could do about it.

There's another article up now about how the evangelical leaders who pushed for this murderous law are now claiming they never supported it.

They even link to a 2009 blog post where Scott Lively brags about the thousands he reached with his anti-gay tour in Uganda.

I hate this. I hate that it was my fellow countrymen who encouraged this--maybe even caused this. I am ashamed and feel like apologizing again for America. My only consolation is that it wasn't my government this time supporting the terror. I am ashamed of my government for its support of colonialism and apartied in Israel/Palestine; at least I know my government wasn't directly behind this travesty in Uganda.

This is a shift for me. I've mentioned before that I wasn't always an LGBT supporter, and that religious-fueled condemnation made it hard for me to condemn even obvious violent acts.

RESOLVED: America should do something about every bad thing that's going on in the world, especially when there's no particular or even tangential benefit to the United States.

And the lube. You're kidding, right? There were no gays before Astroglide?

We are still working on guaranteeing civil rights for American gays. THAT is our first gay-related priority because that is OUR problem and OUR business. We can't right every wrong going on elsewhere in the world. 

Fair point. I do wish there was something we could do. Something constructive, though, that would actually help people.

I dunno, I've never tried being gay, with or without seems like it would help?



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