This is my first post on here and I have a rather simple question for you all. I do not know how maany of you willl be able to answer this , but I have wondered why some people choose to be an "agnostic" rather than an "atheist". I myself am an atheist and i have just always wondered why some people have chosen to be agnostic over atheist.
"I dont know if there is a god or not, all I can say is that all churches got it wrong."
That statement makes no rational sense, if you don't know, then you also can't know that churches are wrong...
It's equivalent to saying: I don't know why I think this, but you're all wrong!
If you're going to say other people are wrong, you bloody well better KNOW why!!!!
You are only partially right... a majority of believers are technically agnostics, since a vast majority of them are not gnostic (if you want to stick to etymology instead of the "modern definition). Agnosticism is fundamentally a theistic position.
A Positive statement: I BELIEVE, needs qualification of either certain or uncertain.
Lack of belief mentality/delusion does not require such qualifiers. Its only been a few decades of history that non-believers have attempted to qualify non-belief and it's a ridiculous concept in my mind, born out of fear and misplaced modesty. There is no problem with the word atheist, it is a clear position. Agnostics however muddle the water with religious dogmas over certainties.
However, given that for a great many agnostics, it is a temporary philosophical position on their way to total contentedness with the obviousness of atheism, I have been, and am prepared to continue to live with "agnostic atheists. If one is to place effort into atheist conversions, I think: better to place that effort on agnostics instead of full fledged religious :p
Agnostics believe that nothing can be known about god/God; they have an actual belief rather than just not knowing whether to be atheist or not. So they are not just unsure atheists. In fact, unsure atheists would probably just be unsure atheists.
Its an X, Y coordinate graph. knowledge and belief being the intersecting points.
Im not sure venn would work as well.
Anosticism is not a subset of anything. The term should not even apply! ;)
In fact, one cannot partially un-believe, one can only partially believe. We have to stop applying qualifiers to negatives, it is semantically ridiculous. It is akin to multiplying by zero on a theist scale:
If the born again Christian is a 10 multiplied by a level of certainty of 10... 100
If the Southern baptist is a 9 multiplied by a level of certainty of 8... 80
If the frustrated Catholic is a 5 multiplied by a level of certainty of 2... 10
If the secular Jew is a 2, multiplied by a level of certainty of 3... 6
The atheist has 0 belief, multiplied by any no matter the level of certainty... ZERO possibility
agnosticism only makes sense as a qualifier of a positive statement, not a negative statement.