So it would seem abortion is now a forgiveable sin in this upcoming holy year of mercy...

http://www.koat.com/news/priests-may-forgive-abortions-during-holy-...

Sayeth the Pope himself.

What do you think of this? It's almost more insulting than the original saying that abortion is an unforgiveable sin. This way it's "up to the archdioses" or "up to the priest that they "may" grant forgiveness...." So Woman A may be forgiven, but not Woman B...I wonder what criteria they use to forgive some but not all women for this unspeakable sin, (sarcasm)...

May the Lord be with you.

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I wouldn't call it a forgiveable sin, I would call it an unfortunate necessity. 

Catholicism simply makes explicit that which is implicit in other religions:  The belief that what's moral depends on the whim of somebody.  (I suppose Pope Lighten-Up-Francis should be thanked for this public service.)  Other religions lay that on "god," Catholicism lays it on some dude who (supposedly) doesn't have sex.

Evidently you can be forgiven provided you are desperately sorry you had one. It's kind of like the rape exclusion that gets bandied about by the Republicans. As long as you didn't enjoy the sex you can get an abortion? Beyond belief. Now Pope Cuddles is joining the parade, you can get absolution provided you are in anguish about the evilness of your deed.

Crap.

On a different note, all you atheist women out there have a rare opportunity!  Get pregnant as often as possible in the next year, and abort it, because, after all, you all wouldn't be atheists if you didn't want to kill babies!!  Now you can do it and be forgiven, but only for one year!!!  Watch out for that expiration date.

(Please note, if you haven't figured it out, the metric shit ton of sarcasm that the previous paragraph is dripping with.)

I guess I found my loophole, but they never specified if it can be backdated. You know, to cover all of those sinning women who have had abortions in the PAST...Maybe the Pope can wipe all of our slates clean, and we can ALL enter heaven. I suppose overpopulation in heaven isn't a concern, is it? 

Next, forgivable to be gay?

And what about the famous (and undefined) sin against the holy spirit?:

Mark 3:28-30: "Truly I tell you, all sins and blasphemes will be forgiven for the sons of men. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an eternal sin.

That passage, of course, implies that by his own lights the pope is full of it, as abortion (along with almost everything else) is forgivable--it's not up to him to say so.  And he's not allowed to forgive the one exception--again no provision for some almost-hairless pink ape to forgive blaspheming against the holy spirit.  Pope LightenUpFrancis would have no authority whatsoever in the matter, even if the Bible were true.

Gee thanks indeed...

You think the starving people in Africa who already have 10 kids might be able to use contraception, too?

How about reporting pedophiles to the police instead of shuffling them away to obscure safety? Could we do that?

Mr pope has alot of power... do something good with it or go away.

The one thing that people don't realize is that those 10 kids in Africa consume in their lifetime less than the average american consumes in a month (that is one single child in the U.S)...so are those 10 kids in Africa really all that burdensome on our planet compared to the United States? (and China)....

Sorry I guess that's just my own little tangeant, not even relevant to the topic.

And about reporting pedophiles to the police, it doesn't do a damn bit of good. Evidence is a tricky thing when it comes down to it.

Nope. They need to just come into the 21st Century already and admit that their religion is full of nothing but patriarchal, oppressive bullshit, and stop trying to try to appease the masses by their half-hearted so-called mercies. It's more insulting (I think) than just being appaulingly backwards and unabashed about it.

Regardless of how little (or much) those ten African kids consume, they are a crushing burden on their parents, who also don't have many resources at their disposal.  It's a matter of relative size of burden, and an anti-contraception stance exacts a large human toll.

are those 10 kids in Africa really all that burdensome on our planet compared to the United States?

All the more reason to be pro-choice in 1st world countries.

And about reporting pedophiles to the police, it doesn't do a damn bit of good. Evidence is a tricky thing when it comes down to it.

I'm sure we can agree that shuffling them away and hiding them is more harmful than leaving them in place for their local authorities to deal with?

They need to just come into the 21st Century already...

That would involve admitting they are wrong... Sadly, it took them 300 odd years to admit the Earth revolves around the sun and some of them still haven't got that memo.

How about reporting pedophiles to the police instead of shuffling them away to obscure safety? Could we do that?

Sure.  That's been the rule in at least the U.S. Catholic Church for over 10 years.

As @Belle points out, most serial child abusers are not convicted until they have harmed dozens of victims and the evidence is overwhelming; even then, average sentences are relatively short, and penalties fall more harshly on minorities and men.   Civil police action is not a panacea.

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