In this discussion I would like to talk about abortion. It is always something I have felt very strong about and would argue to the ends of the earth on. I have always been Pro-Life, always. Ever since I became an Atheist, this topic keeps popping up in my head. Since it is something I have not wanted to confront, I have been pushing it to the back burner. Now that I have given it some thought I would like to tell you where I used to stand and where I stand now. When I was a Christian my thought process was "Abortion is Never the right choice unless the mother and child will both die." So even if the child were to survive and the mother dies, abortion is still not the right choice. Some might even consider that murder, I guess. To answer this question I'm sure someone will ask, Yes I would have and still would give up my life for my child. Well, now I'm sort of seeing things a bit different. If a female gets raped and gets pregnant from it, abortion is ok, (sad all the way around - for everyone).  If a woman chooses to abort a baby due to the risk to the mothers life, Ok. If the baby will have a very very very difficult life and in turn make the parents have an equally difficult life, ok. To me abortion is a horrible thing, if someone wants to have an abortion just because oops I got preggo. That is horrible. If you don't want kids do everything in your power to NOT get pregnant. Simple as that. Life is a beautiful an precious thing, and yes I do believe it is special.  Any and All comments are welcome :)

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Where did you get your miscarriage percentage? The percentages I am seeing everywhere else is as low as 15% percent and as high as 35% depending on the source.

Yeah, 70% seems high from what I have seen, but there is the fact that 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Hi Becca, The first study I read of was in Australia, where they came up with a figure of 'over 70 %'.  Subsequent studies done elsewhere, including Canada, showed significantly lower figures, but still remarkably high .  The lowest of them would seem to make god the world's largest abortionist, by far. 

I don't think that anyone who has never had the "oops, I'm pregnant, now what?" experience (which includes all men, sorry guys) is in any position to judge those who have, and is certainly in no position to know what they would do in that situation.

I think that abortion should be a personal decision, and we should leave it at that.

Yeah, I'm pro-choice.

Peace all!

I don't think that anyone who has never had the "oops, I'm pregnant, now what?" experience (which includes all men, sorry guys) 

I've never had a moment where I thought that I might be pregnant.

Um, that was kind of my point. I think you read that wrong. I said 'never had', not 'ever had'. Sorry, I guess I could have worded that better!


I was just being snarky. :)

Ok, ok. Sorry  :(. I like snark!

Pro-abortion, all the way! No matter the reason. An unborn life is only as precious as the carrier deems it to be. It's a life in 100% dependence of the carrier, it has only the rights attributed by its carrier.

"Life is a beautiful and precious thing." (SNERK!)

"Little girl fetus, you'll be born in Congo to an illiterate teen mother raped by an entire militia. Your little brother will die of malnutrition when you're five.  You'll pretty much starve your entire life.  At age 11, you, yourself will be raped by a militia and executed by having a rifle fired up your vagina.  Wanna be born?"

What kind of women would birth children into this life of despair, anxiety, loveloss, frustration, and fear that we ALL live?  How cruel. How selfish.

All thinking fetuses cry out to be aborted rather than birthed into this hell.  What's that?  Fetuses don't think? Precisely.  They're not human.  Oak trees grow leaves. Acorns do not.  Humans think.  Fetuses do not.

I prefer more oak trees, less human beings.  The positive aspect of abortion.  The Christians state there has been a total of 50 million abortions since Roe vs Wade.  Now that's 50 million less on welfare, unemployment and other social services they despise.

Spot on.


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