Be sure to vote, I am curious where most atheists stand on this issue.

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Ah the Internet. Something about the size of a mans gonads and the speed of his broadband connection.

I hear about so called "Smart guns", I wonder if we are smart enough to handle them.

from: http://www.ecnmag.com/blogs/2013/04/guns-are-only-%E2%80%98smart%E2...

"Triggersmart’s RFID system “can create safe zones in certain areas such as schools, where smart guns coming into the area will be disabled remotely” through Wide Area Control (WAC), according to the company’s website"

Imagine being in a school that some nut job starts shooting and all we have is "smart guns" that refuse to take the prep down and there is nothing we can do about it.

Talk about the other edge of the sword being sharper than the other when safety is a delusion.

Imagine being in a school that some nut job starts shooting and all we have is "smart guns" that refuse to take the prep down and there is nothing we can do about it.

I'd wager the net difference between that scenario and the current reality is zero. Granted the ability for someone to remotely disable your firearm does diminish the value of the weapon overall. Using RFID seems like the wrong way to go.

I'd like to see more R&D in the less-then-lethal bullet category.

The good thing about defense guns is that they level the field.  A 270 lb. man doesn't have as much advantage over a 110 lb. woman when she is armed.

The bad thing is bullets are designed to be lethal.

@Gregg - My dogs are very discerning, and can smell fear.

You are also most welcome to visit, to feel what it is like in a country, where people don't need to bury their guns, or hide their guns, or think they may have to defend themselves against the government. or have a gun in their bag, or in their car - a country where people don't argue over what does a comma really mean, or what does a capital letter really mean.

I do understand why America is generally so paranoid and violent - what with the amount of presidents who have been assassinated, how many disenfranchised people, and people who should be in mental institutes are running around with guns. It is also a country where, just about every generation, goes to war, invades countries, and loses, albeit dragging along stupid countries like Australia, who licks the boots of America, and follows to that war.

There are people who squeal like pigs when gun registration came into being - but, who cares. In the meantime, gangs are popping each other off, and that is a good thing.

It is a mind frame, just like religion.

No guns - no fear.

I do understand why America is generally so paranoid and violent

I'm just wondering how much time you've spent in the US. Typically, open-minded people don't characterize entire nations like that, especially if they've spent any time there. I do very much hope you didn't have a violent encounter here as an exchange student or something.

Where is the reasoning ability of people who say they "understand why America is generally so paranoid and violent" and then cite instances of violence as if these instances are their own causes?

Consider the words of various of America's founders in the 1787 Constitutional Convention, who created the "rule from above" America we have:

ELBRIDGE GERRY. The people are the dupes of pretended patriots, led daily into the most baneful opinions by false reports of designing men, which no one on the spot can refute. (May 31)

ROGER SHERMAN. The people should have as little to do as may be about the Government. They lack information and are constantly liable to be misled. (May 31)

ALEXANDER HAMILTON. The people seldom judge or determine right. Give therefore to the rich and well-born a distinct and permanent share in the government. (June 18)

JAMES MADISON. An increase of population will increase the proportion who labor under all the hardships of life and secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessings. The government ought to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority. (June 26)

GOVERNEUR MORRIS. The second branch ought to be composed of men of great and established property--an aristocracy. (July 2)  & Men don't unite for liberty or life; they unite to protect their property. (July 5)

Think about rule from above as a cause of the violence in America. If those who rule were "our betters" we would have an aristocracy. They are not our betters; we have an oligarchy.

@Gregg - Viva American Companies - Go American workers and keeping them in jobs - never mind the fear engendered into the population to keep these businesses going, 'cause that has worked a treat, or the families who have to live with an innocent member of their family being shot dead, or maimed, and the trauma that will live with them the rest of their lives. No matter.

'We have to keep our guns, just in case a loony tune walks through my door and starts shooting, or just in case the government wants to try and kill us. Nobody is going to get my stash of guns. Never. That is my 'right'.

Paranoia reigns. Violence reigns. The gun lobby wins. Massacres will continue, the manufacturer of these guns will continue.

Anybody with a grudge can buy as many guns as they like, or just go home, and take one of his parents guns to even a perceived score.

"We will keep on making millions out of other peoples tragedy." Shameful.

It is too late for anything to change in America, so rest assured, you won't be in any danger of losing your guns.

You can continue to debate what the 2nd Amendment really means, and put your own spin on it, just like the bible.

There can never be a 'Gun Free Zone', Too late.

http://www.americansworking.com/guns.html

@ Stutz - And still, oh so true.

@Stutz - Don't have to visit to get a feel of the place - do you realize how much of your news goes around the world, how much is reported in the world's newspapers - how much the world knows about the population and the Presidencies, and the wars we have also been dragged into, because of our weak politicians willing to suck up to America. I would have thought we would have learned the lesson after the Vietnam war, but no, off we go again, sending our young'uns off to another unwinnable war or two.

But, I am always willing to admit it when I am wrong, so I will only ask about recent events:

The Columbine Massacre - didn't happen
The Blacksburg Virginia Tech Massacre - didn't happen
The Newtown Massacre - didn't happen
The Aurora Theatre Massascre - didn't happen - please tell me just these four things didn't happen, and I will gladly admit I am wrong about disenfranchised people with easy access to guns. And if they did happen, why did they happen.

I don't understand why you are getting so snippy, there is no real threat to take away your stash, not with the republicans in control, and your rampant tea party and their love of their guns. Not going to happen. I do not want the American influence on Australia to influence the gun lobby here. They are squealing like pigs because they have to register - poor blossoms. Easy access, or no control, means more people dead or maimed who are minding their own business. Pure logic.

I am willing to bet, the bloke on the bike is American - just my perception.

1)  You never DID respond to Gregg.

2)  The sort of ignorant thing I see from overseas is folks who somehow think we can buy "machine guns" off the shelf, etc. because they see it happen in the movies OR the news media report on the issue in a way as to cause confusion (for example, showing video clips of licensed full auto owners on "rock and roll" while discussing "assault weapons"--a phrase whose precise definition doesn't exist, etc. etc., to give the ignorant the impression that people are buying "machine guns" from Blamo Gun Store then shooting up their neighborhood)..

@Steve

I believe she DID respond to Gregg here.

One need not be overseas to view Americans as rather paranoid and violent.  The general attitude about guns in the U.S. is rather paranoid and comes across as 'violent' to those of us who don't think driving around with a glock in the glove box is 'normal'.

Of course in Canada we have the option of just waiting for our enemies to freeze to death, so perhaps that's why we are less prone to shooting up our neighbourhoods.

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