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And this ends any effort on my part have an intelligent conversation with Arcus.

Arcus you are not worth the time.

Look at your comment. Back to mine. Back to yours NOW BACK TO MINE. Sadly, it isn't mine. But if you stopped trolling and started posting legitimate crap it could LOOK like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through comments, finding the ones that your comment could look like. Back at mine, what is it? It's a highly effective counter-troll. Look again, MY COMMENT IS NOW DIAMONDS.

Anything is possible when you think before you comment or post.

Naming guns as the cause of a human action -- like blaming your ice cream scoop for a weight gain -- entirely justifies Gregg's response.

I see this sort of attitude often enough that I wonder if anti-gun people think that guns radiate evil brainwashing or something.

In which hands to paperweights kill? Criminals or normal citizens? Should therefore citizens be allowed to carry paperweights?

We could go on for a while, going through every actual and potential implement that could be used for killing someone.

As a practical issue though, one can hardly dismiss that guns make it very easy to kill, and that is what they are intended for. Paperweights not so much. However, the cynic in me morbidly appreciates any implement that kills a decent number of people somewhere I'm not.

Though please keep them inside the asylum and ensure that anything intercontinental stays banned for private ownership.

Rat poison in a punch bowl is even easier than using a gun. The problem isn't the means, it's the will to kill.

And how many people die from rat poison in a punch bowl annually? 

The leading weapon for committing murder is guns. Therefore the issue at hand is guns if the aim is to prevent murder and other types of violence. You don't get the same effect with regulating rat poison, though if it becomes an issue you may wish to look into whether the regulation of it is sufficient.

Isn't the liberal justification for any regulation that it must be to prevent harm?

Are you just playing at being dense? Obviously, if Plan A doesn't work, it's on to Plan B. It's not like, "Gee, I'd like to kill a lot of people, but I can't get a gun, so I guess I won't."

Did you miss the entire Boston Marathon bombing? They did more damage with bombs than with their guns.

Some things I do not have to play.

There is a strong correlation between the number of guns in a society and overall homicide rate. It is a lot harder, both physically and psychologically, to kill someone with a knife or anything other than a gun. While a regulation on guns wouldn't stop someone premeditated to murder, it would make it more difficult, and it would certainly reduce unpremeditated murders. 

The Boston bombers may have been more successful with their bomb, though it doesn't mediate the fact that a hundred times more people have been killed and injured by guns in the days since. And I do believe bombs are illegal.

Unseen, that is a most interesting thought.

In grocery stores, managers once got rid of rats with a mixture of corn meal and plaster of paris. Rats went for the corn meal and the moisture in their tummies caused the plaster to harden.

There is a strong correlation between the number of guns in a society and overall homicide rate. It is a lot harder, both physically and psychologically, to kill someone with a knife or anything other than a gun. While a regulation on guns wouldn't stop someone premeditated to murder, it would make it more difficult, and it would certainly reduce unpremeditated murders. 

Unpremeditated murders, if done by gunshot, are typically done using handguns or shotguns, which will never be banned. Slightly built Jodi Arias may have shot her boyfriend, but she stabbed him about 30 times first and slit his throat. All it takes to kill someone with something other than a gun is to do it unexpectedly.

The Boston bombers may have been more successful with their bomb, though it doesn't mediate the fact that a hundred times more people have been killed and injured by guns in the days since. And I do believe bombs are illegal.

I can argue that were guns unavailable people who want to kill a lot of people in an impersonal way would be using poison or bombs. Plan B. People who kill others one-on-one out of passion can still go the fireplace poker route. 

You can invoke all the people who've been killed by guns since the Boston Marathon massacre, but I'll invoke Arlington Cemetary and all the soldiers who have given their lives to preserve  the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment.

"Unpremeditated murders, if done by gunshot, are typically done using handguns or shotguns, which will never be banned."

Two things. I didn't say guns should be banned - though I personally wouldn't mind that it's just not in the cards - but rather regulated rather tightly. Also, you completely missed what I was writing. The fact is that overall homocide rates tend to decline when gun ownership rates are lower/regulation is tighter. Thus, not everyone who would be killed by a gun would be killed by other means if no gun was available.

"I can argue that were guns unavailable people who want to kill a lot of people in an impersonal way would be using poison or bombs. Plan B."

You can argue it, but can you prove it?

"I'll invoke Arlington Cemetary and all the soldiers who have given their lives to preserve  the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment."

I hardly see the relevance of this invocation, nor do I believe too many of those buried there died to preserve your constitution, unless every battle the US fights is indeed somehow to preserve it. It's perhaps more apt to say they are there to defend your right to Jingoism, which I believe is not actually in your constitution.

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